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Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams and James Madison: Young America’s Fight with Islamism
Hawai`i Free Press ^ | January 11, 2009 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 01/12/2009 9:24:07 AM PST by AndrewWalden

In light of the ongoing naval battles with Muslim pirates operating from Somalia....

America has been fighting Islamists for longer than many realize. Even before independence was declared, American ships were pirated, and their Christian crews enslaved, by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the “Dey of Algiers”—an Ottoman Islamist warlord ruling Algeria....

Lacking the ability to project U.S. naval force in the Mediterranean, America tried appeasement. In 1784, Congress agreed to fund tributes and ransoms in order to rescue U.S. ships and buy the freedom of enslaved American sailors....

(Excerpt) Read more at hawaiifreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: adams; barbarypirates; foundingfathers; franklin; islam; jefferson; madison; pirates; presidents; somalia; terrorism; ushistory

1 posted on 01/12/2009 9:24:07 AM PST by AndrewWalden
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To: AndrewWalden
America has been fighting Islamists Islamic fundamentalists for longer than many realize.
2 posted on 01/12/2009 9:26:10 AM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: AndrewWalden

Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams and James Madison: Young America’s Fight with Islamism

All today’s students are taught about Thomas Jefferson is the fact he owned slaves.............The NEA at it’s finest


3 posted on 01/12/2009 9:53:12 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: seatrout

So, what’s the difference? ZERO from a current and historical view! All of them either participate or make no objections.


4 posted on 01/12/2009 10:06:23 AM PST by dusttoyou (Prime Minister Hitlery is "really" in charge)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
It depends which agenda their pushing at the time. They'll teach he authored the "separation of church and state" concept (despite the fact that the phrase doesn't appear in the Constitution) and forget the whole slavery issue.
5 posted on 01/12/2009 10:08:10 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (civil rights for all)
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To: AndrewWalden

I am reading the novel The Last Patriot (Brad Thor) and it uses this history as a focal point.

If you find this article interesting you may enjoy the novel.

Good read.


6 posted on 01/12/2009 10:25:38 AM PST by vg0va3 (I don't plan to quit the fight until it is finally over.)
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According to the Center for Nonproliferation Studies, “Moslem and Muslim are basically two different spellings for the same word.”

But the seemingly arbitrary choice of spellings is a sensitive subject for many followers of Islam. Whereas for most English speakers, the two words are synonymous in meaning, the Arabic roots of the two words are very different.

A Muslim in Arabic means “one who gives himself to God,” and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam.

By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means “one who is evil and unjust” when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z.

http://hnn.us/articles/524.html


7 posted on 01/12/2009 10:39:19 AM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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To: seatrout

The difference is that there is no such word as “islamist.” The only proper way, grammatically, to describe these wackos is “Islamic fundamentalist.” I know it’s a bit cumbersome, but words mean things.


8 posted on 01/12/2009 11:16:46 AM PST by seatrout (I wouldn't know most "American Idol" winners if I tripped over them!)
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To: donna

“A Muslim in Arabic means “one who gives himself to God,” and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam. By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means “one who is evil and unjust” when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z.”

I stand corrected - Moslem it is!


9 posted on 01/12/2009 11:31:27 AM PST by Never on my watch ( We need people in office who make their reputation by earning money - not spending it.)
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To: AndrewWalden
"From the Halls of Montezuma to the Shores of Tripoli...."
10 posted on 01/12/2009 11:41:27 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: donna
A Muslim in Arabic means “one who gives himself to God,” and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam.

By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means “one who is evil and unjust” when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z.


Then, I shall make corrections in my blog as I find them.

I did learn a lot from the article and am going to pass it around. Wonder if I should send it to my brother, the Quaker.
11 posted on 01/12/2009 1:06:14 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (YOU can get your own Bail Out . . .Dec 18 post at http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

I think Americans had it right with “Moslem”. Political correctness switched it to “Muslim” in recent years.

Either way, it is Islam which wishes to murder us all.

(I suppose Quakers are having the same problems with liberals that all churches are having now days.)


12 posted on 01/12/2009 1:37:11 PM PST by donna (If America is not a Christian nation, it will be part of the Islamic nation. Take your pick.)
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To: AndrewWalden

millions for defence, but not one cent for tribute


13 posted on 01/12/2009 4:04:30 PM PST by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck)
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