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To: stylin19a

Pant load?

The biggest pant load is the genius who figured out a way to circumvent due process by turning driving into a social contract. For me I choose Freedom and Responsibility. You want guaranties of safety. I don’t want guarantees of safety. You want to impose your will on others through a legislative and judicial process. I want to be left alone, and I am willing to leave you alone.

Pant load...?

You sound like a Statist Thug looking for his mommy to keep him from hurting himself.

It’s only a pant load to overly compliant slaves who don’t value being a free man. This is a necessary discussion, and I am quite aware that my neighbors don’t want what I am selling. I am quite aware that the majority in this country want to live in a highly controlled environment. Sad? Yes. Pant Load? Yes.


36 posted on 01/11/2009 4:33:13 PM PST by DariusBane (I've got a bracelet too :))
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To: DariusBane; stylin19a

What you said.

Generally, women are more willing to trade freedoms away for greater safety than men are.


38 posted on 01/11/2009 4:40:01 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousnad years.)
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I have no problem with anyone exercising their freedom to drive a 7,000 pound vehicle at any speeds, on either side of the road, through red lights, through stop signs, while texting, talking, turned around to attend to kids in the back, or even while downing their 15’th beer for the day..... So long as they have no problem with me exercising my right to anticipate the danger they pose and pre-emptively empty a magazine or two into them in order to defend myself from the danger they pose to me.

Alternatively we could try to build a civilized society by acknowledging that operating heavy machinery at high energy levels (call it ‘driving a car’ if you wish) creates one of the most dangerous situations the average person will ever face in their day-to-day lives and therefore the operator (driver) carries enormous responsibility. Believing that you have some sort of right to endanger the lives of everyone around you with impunity is not ‘freedom’ it is criminal negligence at best. Think about it, and think about your 45,000 fellow Americans that die every year on your roads.

Perhaps the voices of the relatives of those killed by distracted drivers should be given extra weight in this debate?


80 posted on 01/11/2009 6:03:43 PM PST by AussieJoe
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To: DariusBane
ah..the Ted Kaczynski manifesto.

Statist ? about me you presume facts not in evidence.

Forget cell phone, it really has nothing to do with this discussion.

I too want to be left alone and I will leave you alone.

The question:
Is there any line to be drawn ?
If so, what's yours ? ...law-wise, behavior-wise in society.
and how does it fit within the 10th Amendment ?

96 posted on 01/11/2009 7:23:35 PM PST by stylin19a ( Real Men don't declare unplayable lies)
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To: DariusBane
It’s only a pant load to overly compliant slaves who don’t value being a free man.

The problem with that mindless dedication is that you would probably go mad accepting some people's definition of being a "free man."

What you probably meant is anything that agrees with your personal definition. Remember, a large percentage of the American public is certifiably insane.

97 posted on 01/11/2009 7:23:46 PM PST by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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