Examples include:
1) The claim that Obama spent millions of dollars on getting birther lawsuits dismissed.
2) The claim that the certification of live birth that Obama made available to some media outlets is not accepted by the state department as proof of US birth.
3) The claim that Hawaii doesn't accept the certification of live birth as proof of Hawaiian birth.
4) The claim that babies born overseas could get a Hawaiian birth certificate in 1961.
There is not a single shred of evidence to back up claim 1. Claims 2-4 can be prove false with a relatively simple search over the internet. Yet many freepers accept all of the above claims as if they were gospel truth.
Exactly so. And some of us bother to keep pointing out that these repeatedly made claims are not true. Why? Because they aren't. There doesn't need to be any other reason than that. Truth matters. I would hope that everyone could understand that, regardless of where they come down on the facts here.
this is probably a waste of time, but, here:
1) Ballard Spahr Andrews and Ingersoll, Sandler Reiff and Young, Perkins Coie
2,3, and 4)http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/why_the_barack_obama_birth_cer.html, not the most complete, but it gets you started. Feel free to counter anything there. I’ve yet to see anything... It’s not as if identity theft is impossible, by the way.
Each new thread has new information but continues forever because ancient FReepers, those beat in to submission by not being able to overcome how the CLINTOONS got over back in the 90's, continually stop progressive thought and ask these boys and girls to re-prove and repost data that was found long ago ...and when no one wants to bother, they are just labeled as TINFOILS...
You have made your decision...Free Republic was founded on the basis of Rooting out Political Fraud and Corruption...let them do that here without constant interruption and quibble.
With all do respect, your lack of positive input is not championing your fear that FR looks like a right wing nuthouse...you are creating that by allowing the DU lurkers and trolls to joyfully watch the in-house turmoil. Please start your own posts or join others that are not on these CoLB issues and save yourself the strife. Ignore them, please!
I’m tired, so I’ll just take number 4:
Who is Eligible to Apply for the Issuance of a Late Birth Certificate in Lieu of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth?
The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had not been previously registered in Hawaii. The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth Program was terminated in 1972, during the statehood era.
Certified copies of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may be requested following the procedures for certified copies of standard birth certificates (see Certified Copies). The eligibility requirements for issuance of a certified copy of a standard birth certificate apply to Certificates of Hawaiian Birth. And the same fees charged for standard birth certificates are charged for Certificates of Hawaiian Birth. Copies of the set of testimony used to establish a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth may also be requested, and an additional fee is charged for each copy of the set of testimony.
Any person to whom a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth has been issued may submit a request to amend an entry, including a legal change of name, on an existing Certificate. A request to amend a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth will, however, be considered to be and treated as an application with the Department of Health for registration of a late certificate of birth in current use, unless a standard birth certificate for that person already exists in the vital records of the Department of Health. Should there be a situation of dual registration, the requested amendment will be made to the standard birth certificate on file if the required documentary evidence in support of the amendment has been submitted and evaluated to be adequate. If there is no standard birth certificate on file, an applicant is required to submit documentary evidence of the birth facts necessary to support of the registration of the late certificate of birth. If approved, the late birth certificate will be registered in place of the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, which must then be surrendered to the Department of Health.
How to Apply for the Issuance of a Late Birth Certificate in Lieu of a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth
Upon receiving a request to amend an entry on an existing Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, the Registration Unit of the Office of Health Status Monitoring will send:
notification to the requestor that the amendment request is treated as an application for registration of a late certificate of birth, and
instructions on procedures for and submission of required documentary evidence in support of registration of a late certificate of birth.
If the amendment request is subsequently withdrawn, all documents received in support of the amendment will be returned. If the requestor elects to proceed with the application for registration of a late certificate of birth, the documentary evidence submitted in support of registration will be reviewed and evaluated for adequacy. If the application is approved, a late birth certificate will be issued and the original Certificate of Hawaiian Birth issued to the applicant must be surrendered to, for cancellation by, the Department of Health. No filing fee is charged for the late birth certificate.
Further Information and Assistance
For information, call (808) 586-4540 during regular business hours (7:45 a.m. - 4:30 p.m. HST).
Counter service is available Monday - Friday, except holidays, from 7:45 a.m. - 2:30 p.m. Appointments are preferred.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/hawnbirth.html
Regards,
“Birther”