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To: FTJM
"It is "a verification in lieu of a birth certificate". It is not a certified copy of the actual birth certificate, which is available by law."

No, it is an actual birth certificate. It contains the statement right on the bottom that the certificate is prima facie proof of birth.

498 posted on 01/12/2009 6:18:31 PM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
It contains the statement right on the bottom that the certificate is prima facie proof of birth.

That just means that absent any challenge, it is acceptable as proof of birth. It shifts the burden of proof that the information on it isn't valid to the other party, but it is not conclusive proof.

599 posted on 01/13/2009 9:34:37 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: mlo
No, it is an actual birth certificate. It contains the statement right on the bottom that the certificate is prima facie proof of birth.

No, it is a short form abstract called a Certification of Live Birth or "verification in lieu of a birth certificate", not a Certificate of Live Birth (certified copy of the birth certificate). Read the Hawaiian law.

Obamabots seem to have a simple problem with the law.

600 posted on 01/13/2009 10:00:09 AM PST by FTJM
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