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To: mlo
No, it is an actual birth certificate. It contains the statement right on the bottom that the certificate is prima facie proof of birth.

No, it is a short form abstract called a Certification of Live Birth or "verification in lieu of a birth certificate", not a Certificate of Live Birth (certified copy of the birth certificate). Read the Hawaiian law.

Obamabots seem to have a simple problem with the law.

600 posted on 01/13/2009 10:00:09 AM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

The Obamanoids have a major problem with truth ... they don’t recognize it or acknowledge it, so they don’t honor it. It is the alinsky model, use the respect others have for the truth to hold them to that standard but absolutely do not operate or orient to that standard.


601 posted on 01/13/2009 11:26:02 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: FTJM
"No, it is a short form abstract called a Certification of Live Birth or "verification in lieu of a birth certificate", not a Certificate of Live Birth (certified copy of the birth certificate). Read the Hawaiian law."

The wording or variation on the word "certificate" is not the point. It is a legal birth certificate. It is prima facie proof of the facts of birth that are contained on it.

If you believe Hawaiian law says something else, please cite the law here.

637 posted on 01/14/2009 3:18:14 PM PST by mlo
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