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Obama's Kenyan birth evidence to be revealed today, online
Renew America ^ | 12-31-08 | Arlen Williams

Posted on 12/31/2008 6:25:00 AM PST by mlizzy

Permission to copy and post this article's text is granted.

A private investigator in Hawaii has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obama's father and mother, which indicates they had "one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya." That is the report of Ed Hale of PlainsRadio.com, an Internet radio site which has focused upon the natural born Citizen challenges to Obama's presidential eligibility.

Hale announced this during his evening Internet broadcast on PlainsRadio.com, Tuesday, 12/30 and confirmed it with I.O. in an online interview, later that night. He reported that certified copies of this documentation have been sent from Hawaii by the investigator to himself and four others. Hale is to receive his copy today, Wednesday, 12/31 and plans to post it graphically on the site, during the day. He will also discuss this on a special Internet broadcast, between 6 pm and 10 pm Central Time, tonight. The site streams audio as soon as it is accessed via Web browser.

Link to PlainsRadio and their message forum

Link to PlainsRadio and chat window

The Texan Internet entrepreneur relates he got fed up with the lack of documentation on Obama and decided to discuss ideas with his radio audience. His offer to hire an investigator was met with piecemeal sums of money from listeners to his broadcasts. Hale said some of the information one would expect to find was not available. For example, documentation from Obama's mother Stanley Ann's divorce to her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, had vanished. Hale speculates, the reason this forthcoming 1964 divorce decree had not also been "scrubbed" could be that the divorce had been filed not by Obama's mother, but by Barack H. Obama, Sr. Thus, it may have been overlooked by any plumbers for Obama.

Hale does admit to incomplete certainty of his investigator's work until he receives it, partially due to the PI's accent, the telephone connection, and his slight hearing impediment. However, he is very confident of what he will receive during the day. Mark S. McGrew, who writes about Obama's natural born Citizen problems for Pravda.ru, accompanied Hale in his broadcast and also expressed confidence. McGrew had sought publication in numerous American news outlets, but they turned down his articles referring to Obama's apparent ineligibility. Russia's Pravda however, decided his effort to find and report the truth was not to be redlined.

As often related, Barack Obama, due simply to his U.K. citizenship at birth via his Kenyan father, is not a natural born Citizen of America, by definition and the original intent of that term. The Supreme Court has turned down cases which make this point, but according to a September decision in a lower federal court (regarding John McCain's eligibility problem), this would be due to a question of jurisdiction, until Congress is to certify the Electoral College vote on January 8. Further action is to occur, after this date. You may read about this in previous I.O. articles and the sites linked in its sidebar.

Meanwhile, on the question of Obama's place of birth, professionals dealing with documents and forensic evidence have testified that the online "certificate of live birth" provided by Obama is not identifiable evidence of American birth. Now, if Obama's parents' divorce decree states that he was born in Kenya (as his Kenyan grandmother has repeatedly stated), the second epistemological wheel is coming off his vehicle to the White House.

Will Congress pay attention and do its Constitutional duty?

© Arlen Williams


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: api; birthcertificate; certifigate; democrats; falsepresident; obama; obamatruthfile; presidentialfraud
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To: LasVegasMac

Maybe Dog the Bounty Hunter.


61 posted on 12/31/2008 7:07:46 AM PST by boomop1
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To: mlizzy

I’ll watch this, but remain skeptical. If true, I expect it to be swept under the rug and ignored.


62 posted on 12/31/2008 7:10:33 AM PST by DakotaRed (Don't you wish you had supported a conservative when you had the chance?)
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To: Red Badger

nice. I was about to do the same, but he opened that one up big and wide for ya.


63 posted on 12/31/2008 7:11:28 AM PST by Pawtucket Patriot
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To: mlizzy

http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf

Comments, anyone?


64 posted on 12/31/2008 7:13:59 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (Obama lies, the Constitution dies)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

“nobody wants to touch for fear of sparking a constitutional crisis...”

Actually, nobody wants to touch this for fear of sparking riots in the streets. Either way this could happen. If the Anointed One is not a natural born citizen, then what about us so-called Patriots who say we want our Constitution enforced???? Why now after all the egregious acts of our current and past presidents????


65 posted on 12/31/2008 7:15:26 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: jetson

“Whether this is legit or not, these guys have the right idea about paying a PI.”

They overpaid. Documents related to divorce proceedings - judgements etc., are public records that anyone can obtain. You just have to know the case number, etc. so you can request to see the file. They just needed someone in Hawaii that knows how to properly search public records.

It probably took that PI about a day, at most, to locate and get a copy of the records. $1,000 for that is a little steep. I know this because I once was a licensed PI in my home state and dabbled in the field part time.


66 posted on 12/31/2008 7:15:33 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: ozark hilljilly

That was the decree from Dunham’s 2nd marriage, Obama was not a minor at that point


67 posted on 12/31/2008 7:15:50 AM PST by dascallie
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To: alicewonders

“If I was working on something like this - I would NEVER broadcast it to anyone until I had it in my own hands. It’s getting tiring hearing these reports - nothing ever comes of it.”

Agreed. It doesn’t make sense to broadcast and hype this without having documentation in your hand first.
And there was a problem apparently with Hale’s hearing and the PI’s accent.
At least get a copy through fax or email before the hard copies arrive by FedEx.


68 posted on 12/31/2008 7:18:05 AM PST by LongIslandConservative
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To: dascallie

Thank you.
I couldn’t fully peruse it since PDF’s always lock up on me before they are fully loaded.
(I’m a neanderthal with an antiquated system.)


69 posted on 12/31/2008 7:19:40 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (Obama lies, the Constitution dies)
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To: ozark hilljilly
Comments, anyone?

On what? Obama's mother's poor taste in men?

70 posted on 12/31/2008 7:20:29 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Ha!
; )


71 posted on 12/31/2008 7:21:39 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (Obama lies, the Constitution dies)
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To: ozark hilljilly

That’s not the Obama Sr. divorce decree and Obama was over 18 in 1980 when she divorced Lolo Soetero, so that document means nothing in relation to the issue at hand of whether Obummer is a Natural Born Citizen.


72 posted on 12/31/2008 7:21:41 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ozark hilljilly

This is what I thought, Obama was OVER 18 at the time.

Just watch, they will come back and say Obama’s younger sister, under 18, was born in Kenya, so that implies Obama was born in Kenya.....oh and send us more money.


73 posted on 12/31/2008 7:22:41 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

You called?


74 posted on 12/31/2008 7:25:14 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: ozark hilljilly
http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf

Hale said some of the information one would expect to find was not available. For example, documentation from Obama's mother Stanley Ann's divorce to her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, had vanished.

So, is Hale not aware of that document or is that document not real?

75 posted on 12/31/2008 7:25:21 AM PST by jellybean (Who is John Galt? ~ Bookmark altfreerepublic.freeforums.org for when FR is down)
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To: ozark hilljilly

In fairness it could be a case of their lousy judgement in women. The jury is still out.


76 posted on 12/31/2008 7:25:37 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: mlizzy
For example, documentation from Obama's mother Stanley Ann's divorce to her second husband, Lolo Soetoro, had vanished.

They must have vanished onto the internet, since the divorce decree is posted here.

Hale speculates, the reason this forthcoming 1964 divorce decree had not also been "scrubbed" could be that the divorce had been filed not by Obama's mother, but by Barack H. Obama, Sr. Thus, it may have been overlooked by any plumbers for Obama.

Uh, huh. I guess that's why a Time reporter, back in February of this year wrote about the Obama divorce papers, filed by Obama's mother::

"On Feb. 2, 1961, several months after they met, Obama's parents got married in Maui, according to divorce records...."

"Ann filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964, citing "grievous mental suffering"—the reason given in most divorces at the time. Obama Sr. signed for the papers in Cambridge, Mass., and did not contest the divorce."

This Ed Hale character, his pravda pal, and the, uh, "hard of hearing" PI are stringing you along, guys and gals.

77 posted on 12/31/2008 7:26:15 AM PST by browardchad
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To: Tallguy
I'm with you on this issue. Probably just another hoax like API had about Michelle.

Even if true, the MSM will not tell us the real deal because they will not let anyone or anything touch their king/dictator.

78 posted on 12/31/2008 7:27:10 AM PST by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: boomop1

I wish I had thought of him first! But we all know Dog is a racist so his word would mean nothing to the MSM.


79 posted on 12/31/2008 7:28:16 AM PST by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: snippy_about_it
"“2nd class” mail "

Will never arrive. If it wasn't Fedex or UPS Overnight, then good luck.

80 posted on 12/31/2008 7:29:36 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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