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Anti-Gun Group Sues to Stop Concealed Weapons in Federal Parks
foxnews.com ^ | December 30, 2008 | NA

Posted on 12/30/2008 4:01:19 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


61 posted on 12/31/2008 11:31:55 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ExSoldier

Yes, the suit is frivolous and there has been no ruling on incorporation. However, there is a suit on incorporation pending which will be heard well before this one, and I believe that incorporation is likely given the way Heller played out. On top of that, if incorporation happens, our side might make the strategic move to not fight standing, which will allow the case to proceed. If both of those things happen, which I believe are entirely possible, the Brady Campaign’s strategy could backfire on them hugely.


62 posted on 01/02/2009 10:00:02 PM PST by piytar
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Is your concealed carry firearm capable of dealing with a grizzly? I don't think my little S&W 640 with 5 rds of .357mag is going stop a grizzly.

One of the last "Great White Hunters," (I can't wait for the responses to this) Karamojo Bell, used to take elephant with a .243. I'd rather have a .357 than harsh language in facing bear. A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, my platoon sergeant and me ran off a grizzly after my FTX patrol got him grumpy while we were performing a "Movement to Contact" deep in the Rainier Training area on Fort Lewis. We thought fast and used the CS grenades we were going to use in the field training exercise to give that bruin second thoughts. I felt kinda bad when he ran off mewling and rubbing his swollen snout. I tried to tell him not to rub because it makes the pain about a 1000% more acute but he didn't listen. The point is, taken old Bell and other factors into consideration, sometimes unlikely events actually happen and can turn defeat into victory if you think fast enough and can keep your cool. I'd like to have an available tool to do this, however.

I own stuff big enough to do the job, but no ranger is going to believe I actually carry something that big as a daily CCW rig.

Actually the point can be easily made to prove this: When I go out, I tailor my ccw to the potential and possibly foreseeable circumstances of the outing. Meaning, if I'm staying fairly close to home, I may carry my M642 in a pocket holster with a single 5 shot speed loader to spare. But if I'm venturing further out from home, say on a day trip to the Florida Keys, I'll carry a more serious rig, like my Sig P226 with an 18rd spare mag or possibly my Sig P245 with a couple of Sig P220 mags in reserve. If you're going to a prom, you dress for the occasion. Tux instead of a T-Shirt. I guarantee you this, on my next out of state auto trip (probably from Miami to Texas and back), I'm going to be packing 2 firearms on the trip: My H&K P30 9mm AND my new S&W M460V for SERIOUS & UNFORESEEN ISSUES

63 posted on 01/03/2009 9:09:11 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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However, there is a suit on incorporation pending which will be heard well before this one, and I believe that incorporation is likely given the way Heller played out. On top of that, if incorporation happens, our side might make the strategic move to not fight standing, which will allow the case to proceed. If both of those things happen, which I believe are entirely possible, the Brady Campaign’s strategy could backfire on them hugely.

Wow. Sounds promising. Can you expand on this? Christmas vacation is over tomorrow and I'm back in a classroom on Monday. I'll make this a discussion topic for my American Government classes if you can add some meat to this tasty bone. Like maybe expand your post and add a few links?

64 posted on 01/03/2009 9:30:04 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier
I usually pack the S&W 629 4" for day hikes in the local mountains. It's enough for the mountain lions that are the most likely dangerous encounter. There are black bears, but that is fairly rare locally.
65 posted on 01/03/2009 10:51:38 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: ExSoldier

Will do, but might take me a few days to get to it...


66 posted on 01/03/2009 10:54:44 PM PST by piytar
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To: piytar
Will do, but might take me a few days to get to it...

No problem, I've got till about March to cover this.... and still get to everything else I have to cover for a final exam...

67 posted on 01/04/2009 1:25:14 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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