Posted on 12/22/2008 9:01:18 PM PST by JustTheTruth
This is in Arizona, a Phx suburb, for those freepers not familiar with these place names.
Three cheers for Rusty!
Hip-hip, Horray!
Hip-hip, Horray!
Hip-hip, Horray!
"Welcome to Phoenix," I thought... Not a bad place to live. Lots of people with guns - and many of them with concealed carry permits... One wouldn't want to mess with the joggers, for example ... I've seen quite a few of them with pistols in their fanny packs.
Shotguns are funny that way it is hard to miss your target! All I can say to the would be robber that was shot is Good bye!
That is why I have a Mossberg 500 with pistol grips and an 18 1/2 inch barell
Thank goodness the store owner will likely make a full recovery.
Prayers for him and his family.
I have an old Sears side-by-side. The kind with two triggers!
I think I’m going to have to start carrying a European carry-all....
I go around town with a .45 cocked-and-locked in a belt holster a few times every year. Just because I can.
-ccm
Perps momma or priest:"He was such a good boy"He was trying SOOO hard to turn his life around.
and then a mean old jeweler with a shotgun destroys my poor boy's Hope and Change
And for what? just because some greedy old store clerk wanted to keep his stupid old diamonds?/ sarcasm
I think there ought to be a law that all law abiding citizens should own a gun. Some need to be trained to handle a gun though! Some can’t be trained!
Learn to live is the name of the game
So, they can save his vision AND his eye. It would be so much worse if they were only able to save his vision without saving his eye.
I've tried that - pretty hard on the wrist. I kept the barrel and went back to the stock stock.
Yeah those cases are sad where a guy loses his eye and only gets to keep his vision. < head in hands >
I respectfully disagree. The normal spread from my Mossberg 500 is between 2 and 3 inches at 15 feet. Not enough to make a real difference in most situations.
A shotgun will NOT save you from bad marksmanship.
People planning to use a shotgun for personal defense need to put in range time, just like handgunners, in order to be competent. I use mine at an indoor range and while I've had people complain about the noise, I've never known anyone to experience any bladder or bowel control problems upon hearing me rack a round into the barrel. Racking a shotgun will not intimidate a determined intruder into submission. Be prepared to shoot
Shotguns are not miracle weapons. If you hit someone with a 00 load you are not going to blow anybody to pieces. Be prepared for a follow up shot. This means learning to master recoil (through practice, at the range) and racking the gun while it's still on your shoulder.
Two things a shotgun does give you versus a handgun are a longer sight radius, which improves accuracy, and a whole lot of stopping power.
Excellent advice.
I’ve had to take several people to the range to prove to them with their own shotguns that the pattern just doesn’t open up as quickly as most people think.
In every case I insisted that they measure off a potential shot inside their house before departing for the range.
EVERY single time we get there and set up a target, the first thing out of their mouth is “Wow that’s close!”.
After that it’s rarely a surprise when the charge spreads only a few inches, especially when they’re using an Elmer Fudd gun as opposed to something more suitable for impromptu social engineering.
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