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To: Non-Sequitur

“And that any person born in this country, regardless of the nationality of their parents and except for the exceptions mentioned in the Ark case, is eligible to be president.”

Fair enough.

The problem is obama’s performance seems to contradict your assessment of his status as a ‘natural born’ citizen.

If he were born in Hawaii why doesn’t he just release his vault ‘BC’ and be done with it?

I had to send copies of my vital regards in order to get my California Real Estate license and undergo a full FBI background check too!

Even a minimum wage security guard has to show a valid BC as a prerequisite to his/her employment.

Certainly you would agree that it is not unreasonable for us to expect the same from one who wishes to serve as our president?

If the above remedy for this mishap — release of Obama’s vital records — is not within the purview of the law, then what compelling recourse do we have but to apply social and ‘other’ means of pressure?

Let us say, for the sake of argument, that these lawsuits are without LEGAL merit.

The reality is that these lawsuits are slowly leaking out to the general public (no thanks to the MSM) where they (the public) can form their own opinions as to the uprightness and transparency of the Obama Juggernaut.

You do agree that a well informed public is preferable to an ill informed public — as a buffer against government tyranny?

In view of the above I would be hard pressed to imagine why any American — well seated in our traditions — would not champion such efforts to bring this issue to the public square.

A case could be made that by not clearing these ever mounting doubts, Obama is militating against the good faith of those citizens that have voted for him — and even those that have not supported him.

As a duly elected president he would — as per the constitution (and his own words) — be a servant of ALL the people.

Again, his actions would seem counter productive for a man who had nothing to hide.

Therefore, many of us, not unreasonably, harbor grave doubts as to the probity if not the eligibility of our future President.

The nagging question remains:

Why doesn’t Obama for the sake of unity and national cohesion — even the furtherance of HIS own support — release his vital records?

Thank you for your reply.

STE=Q


208 posted on 12/17/2008 4:16:44 PM PST by STE=Q ("These are the times that try men's souls." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q

Even a minimum wage security guard has to show a valid BC as a prerequisite to his/her employment.

Certainly you would agree that it is not unreasonable for us to expect the same from one who wishes to serve as our president?
***I can’t understand why the CertifiGate trolls keep handwaving over that issue as if it didn’t exist. They never answer the question, and yet they’re undeterred in their attempts to pull other FReepers into their pit of hell.


210 posted on 12/17/2008 4:27:42 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: STE=Q
If he were born in Hawaii why doesn’t he just release his vault ‘BC’ and be done with it?

Because as far as he's concerned he's done all that's required. He's released his certificate of birth and the state of Hawaii has said it has his original birth certificate on file. That's already more than prior presidents have done. So from Obama's point of view he's done with the matter, and all the lawsuits for him to produce this or produce that is seen by him as frivolous. For him to agree now to voluntarily produce more would be an admission that he didn't do enough or, worse, an admission that doubts about what he has produced are valid. So he isn't going to produce anything without a court order to do so first. And he's going to fight the law suits in court. And why shouldn't he? He hasn't lost a single one to date.

I had to send copies of my vital regards in order to get my California Real Estate license and undergo a full FBI background check too!

Obama isn't applying for a California Real Estate license so whatever hoops Sacramento has you jump through is irrelevant. What would be relevant would be if you can point to a law requiring presidential candidates to produce their birth certificates and what agency is tasked with checking them.

Certainly you would agree that it is not unreasonable for us to expect the same from one who wishes to serve as our president?

I expect them to follow the law. Right now I can't point to where Obama is violating it.

If the above remedy for this mishap — release of Obama’s vital records — is not within the purview of the law, then what compelling recourse do we have but to apply social and ‘other’ means of pressure?

A compelling pressure that I could think of would be to provide concrete evidence that Obama is lying and that he was not born in Hawaii like he claims. That's about the only way I can think that a court will order Obama to produce anything.

You do agree that a well informed public is preferable to an ill informed public — as a buffer against government tyranny?

Generally. But there is a segment of the public that'll believe anything. Tens of thousands believe the government shot down TWA 800. Tens of thousands believe the government was responsible for bringing down the World Trade Center on 9/11/01. One could argue how big a buffer they are against government tyranny.

In view of the above I would be hard pressed to imagine why any American — well seated in our traditions — would not champion such efforts to bring this issue to the public square.

Perhaps one might need a reason to do so? Something other than internet rumor?

A case could be made that by not clearing these ever mounting doubts, Obama is militating against the good faith of those citizens that have voted for him — and even those that have not supported him.

I doubt Obama is as worried about that as much as you are. Though I'm sure he appreciates your concern.

Therefore, many of us, not unreasonably, harbor grave doubts as to the probity if not the eligibility of our future President.

Never have so many doubted so much with so little to back it up. With apologies to Sir Winston Churchill.

212 posted on 12/17/2008 4:52:41 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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