Leave it to Dungheap Harkin (the "Ol' Populist" -- he actually called himself that yesterday) to come up with a protracted government-centric scheme alleging to solve a multitude of problems (real and otherwise). Bail out the Big Three, preserve jobs, reduce Global Warming(TM), and make yourself a savior in the eyes of your clueless constituents, all with one swell bill.
How about the poor schmuck(ette) driving a '95 Tercel, Metro or Civic? Good luck finding a domestic new car rated 5 MPG higher than that.
And, where is the wisdom in encouraging a family making < $40K/year to take on thousands of dollars in car debt? Typical government "help."
1 posted on
12/16/2008 7:29:20 AM PST by
newgeezer
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To: newgeezer
And, where is the wisdom in encouraging a family making < $40K/year to take on thousands of dollars in car debt? Typical government "help."
most 25mpg cars that'd be sold would probably be cobalts, aveos, neons, focuses, etc. cars that aren't much over $10k to begin with.
unfortunately, what would likely happen is that the minute they got that rebate, they'd head down to the next dealer down the street to trade up for a navigator, escalade, expidition, hummer, etc.
the bright side is the repo business would stay brisk. :)
31 posted on
12/16/2008 7:41:22 AM PST by
absolootezer0
( Detroit: we're so bad, even our mayor is a criminal)
To: newgeezer
The rebate would be limited to families with an adjusted gross income below $40,000 a year or individuals making less than $25,000. Durbin and Harkin asking people who make less than UAW workers to bail out UAW workers who make far more.
Talk about robbing Peter to pay Paul.
33 posted on
12/16/2008 7:41:55 AM PST by
mewzilla
(In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
To: newgeezer
-—as a retiree with a Geo Tracker with 157,000 miles on it-—hummmmm!!!! (sarc)
37 posted on
12/16/2008 7:44:03 AM PST by
rellimpank
(--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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38 posted on
12/16/2008 7:45:19 AM PST by
musicman
To: newgeezer
It is the same thing Madoff did, the only difference is the Government has been doing it longer and it is legal for them to do it.......
To: newgeezer
The rebate would be limited to families with an adjusted gross income below $40,000 a year or individuals making less than $25,000. People in this income category should not be buying new cars!
49 posted on
12/16/2008 7:49:35 AM PST by
Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
To: newgeezer
This person is an idiot for proposing this.
ANY car with four wheels will be a cause for inflationary pressure.
A ten year old car that is not worth $300 will suddenly have 9,700 appreciation.
congress does not need “economics for dummies”, Congress needs an book called “economics for the mentally deficient”
51 posted on
12/16/2008 7:50:21 AM PST by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: newgeezer
Tom Harkin is a first-class pompous asshole who has never seen a big government program or tax he didn't like. And his cheerleading for unlimited abortion makes me nauseous.
Personally, I wish he would do us all a big favor and step off his airplane before it lands.
55 posted on
12/16/2008 7:52:05 AM PST by
reagan_fanatic
(I'll give Obama the same amount of respect the left gave Bush)
To: newgeezer
Why work when the cars are free, at least until the money runs out.
58 posted on
12/16/2008 7:53:21 AM PST by
Tarpon
(America's first principles, freedom, liberty, market economy and self-reliance will never fail.)
To: newgeezer
So the requirements are an American badged car with a high gas mileage, a driveable 10 year old trade in and less than $40k family income. Anything else for this social engineering/union bailout monstrosity? Do you only get $8,500 if you're a smoker? Is the rebate reduced $500 if your employer doesn't provide health insurance? How about a $714.83 reduction if heating and cooling your house produces too much carbon dioxide? Will you get $2,000 more if you promise to kick back $1,000 of that to the Obama 2012 committee?
Just take over the car companies now so I can have my socialism without the base alloy of busybodiness.
59 posted on
12/16/2008 7:54:18 AM PST by
KarlInOhio
(11/4: The revolutionary socialists beat the Fabian ones. Where can we find a capitalist party?)
To: newgeezer
We must speed up the search for villages missing their idiots, and negotiate harder.
60 posted on
12/16/2008 7:54:22 AM PST by
savedbygrace
(SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
To: All
if they want to create a demand for PRIVATE PASSENGER VEHICLES,
END THESE ABSURD MASS TRANSIT SCAM PROGRAMS.
governemnt logic is an oxymoron.
61 posted on
12/16/2008 7:55:57 AM PST by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: newgeezer
The inmates truly are running the asylum.
The Founding Fathers and their generations are amazed we haven’t marched on DC and thrown these bums into the Potomac yet.
65 posted on
12/16/2008 7:59:24 AM PST by
exit82
(It's all Obama's fault. And Biden is still a moron. They are both above their paygrade.)
To: newgeezer
See ... that lady was right ... now that Obama’s elected, the government will pay for gas.
68 posted on
12/16/2008 8:05:14 AM PST by
sono
(What happens when the Kool Aid wears off?)
To: newgeezer
“To get the rebate, you would be required to turn in a car more than 10 years old that is still drivable.”
If its still driveable, doesn’t it go right out on the lot and eventually on the road again...doesn’t make sense if this is supposedly getting older cars off the road.
Look for alot more ‘tinkering’ after the bailout.
72 posted on
12/16/2008 8:16:30 AM PST by
lacrew
(Yup, they're girded!)
To: newgeezer
While all of these bailouts and other forms of welfare for the undeserving are being discussed, heroic men and women in our Armed Forces are risking and sometimes losing everything for their country. They are paid an abysmally small wage and will return to find that whatever money they have saved is worthless due to the coming inflation (due to government printing presses working overtime).
If printing and "injecting" money into the economy is so important, why not give it to someone who deserves it? There are approximately 2 million WOT vets. Giving each one $20,000 would cost "only" $40 billion. If targeting the use of the money is necessary, make it a $20,000 credit towards the purchase of any new car assembled in the USA. But the Republicans might be labeled the "opposition" party for proposing such a thing. It's one thing to risk IED explosions; the wrath of newspaper editors is evidently much more to be feared.
This approach to "stimulating" the economy might mean less up front for the bankers. But they would end up with it eventually (they would just have to work for it). In the meantime, some deserving Americans would receive a very small token of appreciation for their service.
74 posted on
12/16/2008 8:17:54 AM PST by
Ragnar54
To: newgeezer
Every beater just became a $10,000 car! Idiots! This is nothing but a $10,000 vote buying giveaway.
75 posted on
12/16/2008 8:20:59 AM PST by
CodeToad
To: newgeezer
They will never get my 73 El Camino, 84 Buick Riviera convertible, 95 Caprice cop car, 96 Impala SS or seven more that are 10 years or older. I will hide them in the woods if they come after them!
76 posted on
12/16/2008 8:24:40 AM PST by
mono
To: newgeezer
Why is the government trying to encourage low-income people to buy new cars? Our AGI is well over that threshold and one of our primary vehicles is over 10 years old. Even with a $10K “rebate” I’m still not interested in buying a brand new “qualifying” vehicle. I would have absolutely less than no interest if our AGI met the criteria- it seems foolish to me.
77 posted on
12/16/2008 8:25:38 AM PST by
philled
("I prefer messy democracy to the stability of tyrants." -- Howar Ziad, Iraqi Ambassador to Canada)
To: newgeezer
It’s official, the government will now buy the cars nobody wants.
The first model will be called the American Zil.
80 posted on
12/16/2008 8:33:02 AM PST by
headstamp 2
(Been here before)
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