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Scalia Accepts Cort Wrotnowski Case on Obama Citizenship to Conference
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Posted on 12/08/2008 8:50:10 PM PST by Jay777
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To: DMon
It is simply a precedural thing. If that is the case, then why aren't ALL applications submitted into conference? There is at least a modicum of interest; more than some and less than others, otherwise it wouldn't make it further in the SCOTUS (other than a quick read.)
To: All; BIGLOOK
From the document included in post # 80 from Fight the smears....
*****************************EXCERPT*******************************
When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.
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So why did it expire?
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Kenya became independent of the British Empire in 1963 when Jomo Kenyatta was elected and formed a government. Obama Sr would then be a Kenyan citizen, his son (whatever) would have been a toddler.
Stanley Ann divorced Obama Sr and remarried, Lolo Soetoro , an Indonesian exchange student and moved to Indonesia with him at the time the Dutch were fleeing Indonesia with the kid in tow. Lolo adopted Obama Jr (whatever) and sent him to school. Didn't last long before Stanley Ann shipped little Barry (whatever) back to the grandparents in Honolulu to nurture and school.
As a kid Barry/Barack/Dunham?/Obama?/Soetoro? flew under the radar. Piggybacked on his mother's passport, his step father's passport (just a photo stapled to the page) and was a ward of his grandparents, whose meager means put him through Punahou (a private school)and sent him of to Occidental College in the mainland. Now the pregnant question is 'was Dunham/Obama/Soetoro enrolled as an exchange student in a mainland school, a monetary advantage or gov't subsidized education (which gov't?)
But I digress. Obama's (whatever) British/Kenyan citizenship expired due to no proof of existence on his 21st birthday (?).
The rest is history (edited, rewritten, re edited and published).
83
posted on
12/09/2008 7:28:49 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
To: All; BIGLOOK
Another...FR Thread;
Why the media blackout on Obama's citizenship
has the name I was trying to come up with and a possible reason why Obama doesn't want his papers made public....
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By JR Dieckmann
It seems that everyone today is asking why there is no media coverage of the many legal challenges to Obama's eligibility to become president, based upon many valid questions regarding his citizenship. Instead of simply answering these challenges with documented proof of his citizenship, he has chosen instead to conceal from public view, every single legal document he has, and spend a half million dollars in lawyer fees to fight the cases in hopes of getting them dismissed or delayed indefinitely.
The documents he has had sealed that would answer this looming question are his original birth certificate, his passport, his college records from both Columbia and Harvard universities, his health records, and his original Selective Service registration if it exists at all. Many inconsistencies in the Selective Service registration form, which has appeared on the web indicate it has been forged or altered. Obama seems determined to hide his true identity.
Some investigators are even questioning the identity of his paternal father, based on his stronger resemblance to Frank Marshal Davis and Malcolm X than to Barack Obama Sr.
To: BIGLOOK
Bwahahahaahaha, your post reminds me of that wheelcahir guy throwing wrenches at the dodgeball recruits!
85
posted on
12/09/2008 7:31:17 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: papagall
86
posted on
12/09/2008 7:32:28 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: BIGLOOK
Thanks...taking a break to watch the Lakers BB Game.
To: papagall
88
posted on
12/09/2008 7:34:24 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: Grampa Dave
What has our world come to when upholding the Constitution might anger millions of citizens and cause civil unrest.
89
posted on
12/09/2008 7:38:04 PM PST
by
ladyjane
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
OK clearly Obama has one parent who is US born and one who is not....How do you know that? Have you seen his birth certificate?
90
posted on
12/09/2008 7:40:05 PM PST
by
ladyjane
To: MHGinTN
Hey! You can’t make this stuff up!
91
posted on
12/09/2008 7:47:56 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
To: BIGLOOK
So, Obama released Fukino to state where he was born from teh vault copy. Deos that mean the document has now been rendered ‘public’?
92
posted on
12/09/2008 7:53:53 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: MHGinTN
Does that mean the document has now been rendered public?
No. We only have oral statements that there's a Certificate of Birth.
Nothing has been presented to the court, the governor or the public. Just hearsay.
93
posted on
12/09/2008 8:01:40 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
To: Jay777
Maybe someone already asked this question, but, if this case is truly nothing and only the lunatic fringe are following it, why would Scalia send this SECOND case up for discussion? I could understand that Thomas may have sent the first case for discussion just to get the whole issue off the table. But, why would Scalia do this for the second case? It seems to me that it must be something other than a nuisance case. And, it must have the support of several of the conservatives. Perhaps the first case did have a flaw, and since this one doesn’t it has a better chance. I really don’t have great knowledge as to how these court cases get set up for discussion. But, can anyone give me a good explanation as to why Scalia would take the action that he did if this is as ridiculous as some say?
To: ladyjane
Hopefully the BC will become secondary to indictments issued in Chicago.....Now that WOULD be an excuse for him to step down before 1-20....without being embarrassed by his BC ;~)
95
posted on
12/09/2008 8:03:34 PM PST
by
hoosiermama
(Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
To: BIGLOOK
How can a state official who has previously been restrained from stating the location due to provacy now state a private fact found on the document without the state official opening the private document for verification?
96
posted on
12/09/2008 8:04:43 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: MHGinTN
What fact has been divulged?
Fukino simply stated that a Certificate of Birth is on record. So are Certificates of Birth for children of Chinese, Japanese, Filipino, Puerto Rican, Portuguese and even Scots on record here. A Certificate of Birth is a mere formality.
There was no opening of a document, no dissemination of it's contents. All that was said is that it's 'there'.
97
posted on
12/09/2008 8:18:38 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
To: ladyjane
Well, Obama says his father was born in Kenya....course maybe that isn't his father....
See #67!!!
To: BIGLOOK
I was going on what you posted in #74: "Funny thing on the local radio news this morning; Chinoye Fukino and another official reportedly re verified that Obama's Certificate of Birth is on record and that he was born in Hawaii." If she in fact divulged that piece of data from the vault copy, hasn't sjhe been released to do so by the Obama and thus hasn't he released the facts of the document and thus the document?
99
posted on
12/09/2008 8:26:29 PM PST
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: ladyjane; BIGLOOK
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