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AP Video: Lawsuit Contesting Obama Citizenship Continues
AP ^ | 12-6-08

Posted on 12/06/2008 10:40:20 PM PST by STARWISE

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To: Texas Eagle

“So you’re going to do the same thing the left wing wackos did about President Bush being “selected” by the Supreme Court?”

Heh? SCOTUS didn’t cover anything up in the 2000 election. Mark Levin has an entire chapter devoted to the recount issue in his book “Men in Black.”

So I suggest YOU read a book. Read “Men in Black” by Mark Levin (paying careful attention to chapter 11, “The Court Counts the Ballots”).

Then we can play show-and-tell and compare book reports: I’ll tell you what I found in Article II, Section I of the “Constitution of the United States”; you tell me what you found in chapter 11 of “Men in Black.”


41 posted on 12/06/2008 11:46:41 PM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: All

Poll:

Do you think the Supreme Court should hear the case challenging President-elect Barack Obama’s right to be president based on his citizenship at birth?

http://washingtontimes.com/polls/2008/dec/Obama-citizenship/#comments


42 posted on 12/06/2008 11:53:32 PM PST by unspun (PRAY & WORK FOR FREEDOM - investigatingobama.blogspot.com)
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To: STARWISE

obama mom a cia cut out...

Now I know Why his records are sealed...

In the case of a child born to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent, the U.S. citizen parent now had only to be physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth for 10 years, at least 5 of which were after the age of 14. “Physical presence” was different from the concept of “residence” which had applied under the previous statute. The physical presence requirement could be satisfied by mere presence in the United States even if the person had not established a legal residence there.

The physical presence requirement was intended to preclude extended absences from the United States during the required period. However, it was found to be too restrictive. In 1966, Congress passed an amendment which, for children born on or after December 24, 1952, permitted the transmitting U.S. citizen parent to count presence abroad in the following capacities towards the physical presence requirement:

1. honorable service in the United States Armed Forces;

2. EMPLOYMENT by the United States Government;

3. employment by an international organization with which the United States is associated; or

4. physical presence abroad as a dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person employed in one of the above categories.

See #2 his mom was a spook and worked for the us government
wow case closed (SARC)


43 posted on 12/07/2008 12:30:13 AM PST by OL Hickory (Im going off the rails, on the crazy Train.)
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To: OL Hickory

spook equal undercover agent right?


44 posted on 12/07/2008 12:33:38 AM PST by OL Hickory (john 3:16)
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To: LucyT

Of possible interest to your list.


45 posted on 12/07/2008 12:35:09 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("If one cannot learn from the mistakes of others, one might as well become a Democrat."--E. Friesner)
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To: unspun; GoodDay

It wont let me vote or see the results without registering.

Funny, before i just logged back on, i was thinking about such a poll, though i then got flashbacks to the massive amount polls we discussed here during the past 90 days or so.

But i think the better poll I’d like to see is a national poll of whether people want to see the actual proof of natural born citizenship before the inauguration. That is something I would be interested to know.

i do not know if this particular case is the best case for the Court to hear or not. There are others moving through the system. i’d like them to hear the strongest case, and not toss it on mere threshold matters like standing.

Because this issue needs to be heard- there should be notice to the parties to produce their best cases, and an opportunity to be heard on the controversy at issue.

We, as Americans, deserve to know the truth about these things. Without threats of rioting interfering with people’s judgment. Without claims of racism.

Not a shell game, posting documents and then taking them down. Not hearsay statements by people who claim to have seen the document- let’s see the real documents, and if need be, question witnesses about their veracity.

Just the facts. The real, authentic facts, in admissible form.


46 posted on 12/07/2008 12:43:56 AM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: television is just wrong

I used to work in the military intelligence field and I’ve heard of crazy things but this is unbelievable. J.Edgar Hoover would never have approved this - he didn’t want women working for the FBI, period.

Stanley Anne would have been in her early-to mid teens in the late 50’s, turning 18 years old in 1961. Girls that age are difficult to control, they’re behavior unpredictable. This would have been terribly risky for the Bureau, and if it was ever made public - no! They would never have set this up. The PR risks alone make it unfeasible.


47 posted on 12/07/2008 3:04:53 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: Texas Eagle

No, I don’t want a rerun of the election: I want it made public that Senator Obama is a fraud and ineligible to be President as per Article II, Section I, clause 5 or the United States Constitution. (The Democrat Party has not certified that either Barack Obama or Joseph Biden are “qualified” to be President or Vice President, only that they are “nominees”).

The facts are simple. The Senator has even admitted he had dual citizenship at birth: British and U.S. That makes Senator Obama a British citizen, and once attained at birth, you’re a Brit forever.

So if he was born in Hawaii, as he claims, then he is “native born” with dual citizenship, BUT because one of his parents is a foreign national, he is not “natural born” (having two parents who are citizens) and therefore ineligible to be President. The other requirement is that one be born within the United States or its territory. Senator McCain is also ineligible, as he was born in Colon, Republic of Panama, years before the U.S.Navy hospital would be built. Senator McCain’s parents were both U.S citizens so he has “citizenship by statute”.

Both McCain and Obama were given large cash donations by George Soros.

Barack H. Obama Sr. registered his son as a British citizen with the colonial government in Kenya, and then later as a Kenyan citizen with the new government after independence. Senator Obama does not dispute these facts.

One cannot have split allegiences and serve as President of the United States.


48 posted on 12/07/2008 3:33:04 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: Canedawg

The political parties are supposed to certify to the various Secretary of States that their nominees meet the required qualifications of the political offices they seek.

The Democrats did not do this. They sent a letter that certified that that Senator Obama and Senator Biden were nominees. Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, signed the letters.

OOPS!


49 posted on 12/07/2008 3:36:46 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: SatinDoll

It’s no coincidence that Howard Dean recently resigned from the DNC.

He is the already-prepared fallguy if the isht hits the fan, so to speak.


50 posted on 12/07/2008 3:45:14 AM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: deannadurbin

Heck his life accomplishments (?) or true story are all under lock and key except what may be true in his ghost written books. This whole issue is about protecting our Country and Constitution and he’s challenging all by not addressing requirements. So I’m not going to “get over it” either as it’s not right and he will never be my President. Hell, He literally bought the election along with the Dem SOP of voter fraud which is accentuated by the activities of the ACORN malignancy. Our system of voting needs to be overhauled i.e., pictured ID, polling tests and perhaps even having “status” as a taxpayer or landowner.
End of pre coffee rant.


51 posted on 12/07/2008 5:18:42 AM PST by mcshot (Lord hear our prayers - our Constitution needs Divine Intervention to survive.)
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To: GoodDay

I think this scenario is entirely possible and would explain how Obama was able to get all of these things sealed.

It would also explain this weird thing of how there are no people that come forward about his past.

There is the guy who participated in the Bay Of Pigs invasion exiled to the US who claimed in an email that Ann was pregnant when she left Cuba. He says he got this information from his former CIA contacts. HOwever, it is never been proven he actually authored this email .

Name - Oswaldo Hernandez Campos living in North Carolina.

check out this article that was removed from the website.

http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-obama-the-secret-son-of

Israel Insider Publisher

If Barack Hussein Obama II is Malcolm X’s biological son, it would explain the mystery of why he was so generously helped by so many Arab and communist “friends in high places” long before he was a “somebody.” Just as Malcolm X adopted Islam, his secret son would also need to learn its ways, and learn the ways of revolution, not just assume an Islamic name. He would need to be groomed and educated to organize the community called the United States of America.

Israel Insider had been running a series of articles exploring the vagaries of Barack Obama’s birth, and his concealed documentation, and this was the jumping off point of the email, which confirmed the claim that Obama was not born in Hawaii, that “Mossad are going with Mombasa” but “Proving Mombasa is not so easy, as NSIS in Nairobi are clamming up tight, as are MI6 in London, who have the original Mombasa file and full details of the birth.”

He said that “Disproving Honolulu is child’s play. You’ve already shown that the birth certificate put forward by Obama (whose people privately are not denying Mombasa, by the way) is a fake. Why fake it? If he was born in Honolulu he could obtain a genuine one. Hawaii Dept of Health would hardly denounce a potential presidential candidate’s birth certificate as fraudulent without cross-checking birth records for August 1961. No birth was registered in the name of Obama in Honolulu in August 1961.”

(This last detail may explain why Hawaiian officials last Friday confirmed that a birth certificate does indeed exist but conspicuously refused to release any details or even confirm that the details conform to those on the computer-generated Certification of Live Birth. The name on the “original” certificate may in fact not be Obama nor the birthplace Honolulu. But Obama’s recent visit “to his grandmother” may well have had less to do with her health than eliciting this vague and inconclusive statement from the Hawaiian Health Department.)

The source continues: “There is no evidence Ann Dunham had even met Obama Senior in or around November 1960, the alleged time of conception, indeed it is not even clear Obama was in Honolulu at that time, although he may have been. Ann Dunham was only 17 and although she might have been in Honolulu the timing is tight.” “More to the point, she was in neither of the medical centers put forward by the Obama campaign (question: why do they not know in which hospital he was born?) on August 4th, nor are there medical records to back up the claimed birth, nor has an attending physician been named. I’ve heard of births with the father absent, births with the mother absent a bit trickier.”

“There are said to be photos of Ann Dunham on Waikiki Beach taken in or about July 1961, when she is supposed to have been in her third trimester, in a bikini, taken by a fellow female student. AD is clearly not pregnant. Media have not yet talked to fellow students, but it can’t be long. There are bound to be other photos of AD in existence taken during the alleged 2nd and 3rd trimesters. Obama campaign are terrified some one will press for her medical records, which have been accessed by CIA.”

“Moving to Indonesia the Obama campaign are also suppressing the Indonesian immigration and passport records, which I believe show him as a Kenyan citizen, and the naturalisation records. They have not denied Internet claims he was naturalised in Indonesia. If he was a US citizen there should be a visa record to back that up.”

“Obama Senior was murdered in Kenya in 1982 to silence him. Interesting story re his sister Auma as well — she appears to be a full sister, not a half-sister as he is claiming, i.e. they share the same mother. She was ordered back to Kenya in 2007 to prevent DNA testing …. CIA did a DNA test on the grandparents, using saliva from glasses, which conclusively rules out any relationship between Obama and the Dunhams.”


52 posted on 12/07/2008 5:34:52 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: SatinDoll

We aren’t talking about the FBI. CIA is a whole other ballgame. I don’t believe for one second that the CIA doesn’t operate in the US.
CIA will use anyone to help their cause...especially women...strippers...it doesn’t matter.

And when they aren’t successful in a honey trap they will manufacture one, I.E., Sukarno.

This may have changed in the 21st century but back during that time...they had their hands in many nefarious things.


53 posted on 12/07/2008 5:43:55 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Texas Eagle

So, O wise one,you think he is qualified under article 2 section 1? Chances are that he is not qualified so why dont you take a wait and see attitude.Ok? Thanks much.


54 posted on 12/07/2008 6:12:44 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Canedawg

It wont let me vote or see the results without registering.
************
try the bugmenot.com site. use it all the time

http://www.bugmenot.com/view/washingtontimes.com


55 posted on 12/07/2008 7:18:43 AM PST by summernite
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To: television is just wrong

I find that completely unbelievable.

The CIA is not going to recruit a high school girl (late 50’s time frame) - not a chance.


56 posted on 12/07/2008 8:31:48 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: exhaustedmomma
First Stanley's dad was wanted for espionage. Then her parents were some sort of commie radicals. Now, Stanley is a the rebellious secret agent sacrificing herself to radical black commies for the sake of her country. The love child is now president-elect who won't show his BC... to protect the innocent.

ROTFLMAO!!

(and they call US conspiracy kooks!)

Unless and until he demostrates he is indeed Constitutionally qualified to hold the office of POTUS, I will patently ignore every law I can that ever gets his signature. I will not be alone.

57 posted on 12/07/2008 8:46:56 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: STARWISE; Texas Eagle

Should something interesting come from the SC actions, the biggest loser will be the MSM for its gross negligence and exposure as frauds.

Years ago while at grad school, one of my gay, liberal associates heard me lament a potentially stolen senatorial election in LA. His guidance: “get over it,” which fairly well explains the liberal/Democrat/ACORN election mindset.

“Getting over it” ends on bended knee before human masters.


58 posted on 12/07/2008 8:48:58 AM PST by mj81
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To: Slings and Arrows; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ...

Thanks, Slings and Arrows.

Ping.

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These comments, too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2144360/posts?page=52#52

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2144360/posts?page=50#50


59 posted on 12/07/2008 8:51:31 AM PST by LucyT
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To: STARWISE

I have never believed in conspiracy theories; not Elvis lives, the lunar landing staged, JFK assination, 9/11 inside job, Illuminati, floride in the water, or Roswell. I do believe that there is SOMETHING dirty in the Obama citizenship issue. I don’t know what it is but there is something dirty.


60 posted on 12/07/2008 8:54:15 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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