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Climate may have caused Rome to fall
UPI.com ^ | Dec. 6, 2008

Posted on 12/06/2008 5:55:08 AM PST by grjr21

Geologists say a discovery in a cave near Jerusalem suggests climate change may have caused the fall of the Roman and Byzantine Empires.

Geochemical analysis of a stalagmite from Soreq Cave in the Stalactite Cave Nature Reserve reveals increasingly dry weather from A.D. 100 to A.D. 700 that coincided with the fall of both Roman and Byzantine rule in the region, the University of Wisconsin-Madison said Friday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; globalcooling; globalwarming; godsgravesglyphs
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To bad They never had an Emperor Gore around .He could have mandated production of low emission horses

1 posted on 12/06/2008 5:55:08 AM PST by grjr21
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LOL


2 posted on 12/06/2008 5:56:08 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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climate change may have caused the fall of the Roman and Byzantine Empires.
And all this time I thought it was Bush's fault.
3 posted on 12/06/2008 5:56:13 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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Right. Not Germans or Moslems or anything. Climate change.


4 posted on 12/06/2008 5:57:46 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." ~Sam Brown)
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To: grjr21

Global warming?


5 posted on 12/06/2008 5:58:15 AM PST by Phoenix11
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Geologists say a discovery in a cave near Jerusalem suggests climate change may have caused the fall of the Roman and Byzantine Empires.

How convenient that it just happens now that these geniuses have found the "real" reason, that just happens to coincide with a politically correct hysteria about climate change. These "geologists" are looking for grant money from a source that's out of their normal realm - "climate change" grants. These people are either G-d d@mn fools or ruthless charlatans to suppose that they have suddenly found the "real" reason Rome fell, after two millenia of historians investigating and writing about it.

6 posted on 12/06/2008 6:03:51 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why do I find the Toyota "Saved by Zero" ads so ironic?)
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How about never having learned to fight on horseback??


7 posted on 12/06/2008 6:05:15 AM PST by wendy1946
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"Whether this is what weakened the Byzantines or not isn't known, but it is an interesting correlation,"

Translation: I don't know, but I want some free publicity.

I could just as easily say the lack of fresh slave girls demoralized the Roman army which contributed to bad performance.

8 posted on 12/06/2008 6:05:50 AM PST by CE2949BB (Fight.)
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Rocks in a cave suggest climate change caused the fall of the Roman Empire.

I don’t know about you but every time I took a suggestion from an inanimate object I’ve lived to regret it.


9 posted on 12/06/2008 6:11:31 AM PST by grjr21
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I would guess Rome really fell from government over-spending, defunding their military for welfare spending, and a breakdown in the culture caused by assimilation failure. Climate change would be a real long shot.
10 posted on 12/06/2008 6:12:05 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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This story is bull flatulence from Madistan where common sense is forbidden by fiat.

We all know that climate change only happens when evil entrepreneurs try to make a profit and have free markets. It takes the collective to direct us in the ways of the Goregons and Bommabots.

Where are the revolutionaries when we need them?


11 posted on 12/06/2008 6:12:14 AM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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Well, at least the Romans fixed it by getting rid of all those cars.


12 posted on 12/06/2008 6:14:53 AM PST by Magnatron
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Not Germans or Moslems or anything.

Um, Muslims weren't for another couple hundred years. The Goths, upper Germanic tribes that the Romans considered subhuman and oppressed - that's another story.

13 posted on 12/06/2008 6:16:34 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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Apparently the same with the Anasazi in the NA SW. No food is a problem.


14 posted on 12/06/2008 6:18:31 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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I would guess Rome really fell from government over-spending, defunding their military for welfare spending, and a breakdown in the culture caused by assimilation failure.

Not to mention adoption of immoral lifestyles and the weakening of the will to defend the empire. Talk about self-indulgent, decadent cultures. Not many in written history surpass it.

15 posted on 12/06/2008 6:19:15 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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Did the Romans use squiggly torches to save on their lighting?


16 posted on 12/06/2008 6:19:44 AM PST by NeoConfederate
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“Not to mention adoption of immoral lifestyles and the weakening of the will to defend the empire.”

Sounds, frightenly, familiar.


17 posted on 12/06/2008 6:22:26 AM PST by this is my country
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If it was climate change it was because the earth COOLED.

Back then grapes for wine were grown in Northern England.

18 posted on 12/06/2008 6:22:51 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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You just named most of the REAL major reasons Rome fell, and I’m willing to bet you’re not even a geologist.


19 posted on 12/06/2008 6:23:19 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why do I find the Toyota "Saved by Zero" ads so ironic?)
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Good ole moral corruption destroyed Rome and it’s starting to do the same in the ole US of A. Short of a real spiritual revival we are headed down the same road, but our republic is only 200 years old.


20 posted on 12/06/2008 6:23:37 AM PST by Rodm (Seest thou a ,,diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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