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WE'VE BEEN THREATENED
NEALZ NUZE ^ | December 3, 2008 | NEAL BOORTZ

Posted on 12/03/2008 9:14:57 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20

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To: Publius6961

Or they can just retire with their golden parachutes.

What a scam!


21 posted on 12/03/2008 9:57:04 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Free Descendant
Can/will the GOP filibuster this crap?

Call Mitch McConnell and ask him. I suspect now that he is safely back in office for 6 six years, his spine will revert to its previous state of flaccidity.

22 posted on 12/03/2008 10:03:44 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I guess it would be interesting to note that if they get the “bailout” money, it would be useless if a number of citizens decided to not buy a new vehicle next year...Or maybe the year afterwards...

Of course with unforseen events like damages, total loss, and mechanical breakdowns of existing vehicles we own could change that somewhat...But why buy a vehicle from one of them???

If they get this handout, their “plan” they say is to re-tool, reorganize etc etc...We’ve heard this before, and all it ends up being is namechanges and other bait and switch programs...And in the end nothing really changes...

Bankruptcy would take the Unions down a notch or two, and the expensive entitlements driven by some arm-twisted agreements in the contracts would help the companies out by off-loading the “retired” workers who should have been saving for their retirement, instead of working the 20 and getting paid in full when they retire till they die...

Whoever got that deal passed is a genius...

Like I said, stop buying for the next year or two, and this will take care of itself...

Just my opinion...


23 posted on 12/03/2008 10:03:48 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: boxer21

I had no idea any of them got that much. I was thinking more around the order of $60,000 a year. Never did I think workers for American car companies got more than twice that.


24 posted on 12/03/2008 10:07:46 AM PST by wastedyears ("Al Gore is an apostle of arrogance." - Vaclav Klaus, Pres. of Czech Republic)
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To: mountn man

If they are bailed out with unions intact, I say BOYCOTT !


25 posted on 12/03/2008 10:25:01 AM PST by Blue Shark 1
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To: Publius6961
"Instant Classic 'Rat solution: 'Level playing field' tarrifs... "

The Rats will probably do that anyway, whether they leave or not. But that doesn't negate the fact that they are making better cars, and the tarrifs probably wouldn't amount to much more added than my two "Big 3" cars have cost me in gas and repairs.

And, if they go up on auto tarrifs, then all other tarrifs will go up too. So we will be paying more regardless...thanks obama. /sarc I think they would still outsell the American makers.
26 posted on 12/03/2008 10:50:25 AM PST by FrankR (“Turtle up”, economically, for the duration of 0bamanation.)
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To: B4Ranch

ROFL! Excellent!


27 posted on 12/03/2008 11:41:50 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (RINO = Big government, blue blood, country club Vichy Republicans)
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To: wastedyears

I think the workers get $29 per hour which equates to around $60,000 per year. When you load in the benefits and overtime it apparently comes to more than twice that.

In addition, when plants are idled for whatever reason, the workers draw 95% of their pay for staying home and watching Oprah. Senator Dodd recently commended the auto CEO’s at the hearing for being so benevolent regarding the 95% stipend.


28 posted on 12/03/2008 11:53:33 AM PST by boxer21
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To: B4Ranch

(chuckle)

Thanks for the link.


29 posted on 12/03/2008 12:06:52 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Blue Shark 1
I say don't bail them out. The companies have to be worth something of themselves. They either restructure themselves or sell out.

Its not as if, if they didn't get bailed out they'd have no value, and just have to close up shop, and that would be all. Some other auto company could come along and buy them in a fire sale, and move on from there. They already have so much material to build from. They already have designs on the boards for the next few years. With all the buildings and tooling, the companies are good to go. They even have the man power there. Now whether the man power wants to stay might be a different thing.

Another company thats already building, successfully, in the US, could aquire all the assets of one or more of these companies, and apply their administrative policies to the assets, and they're good to go.

If people don't like that option? Tough! Its survival. The big 3 ran themselves into the ground. That includes the workers, shareholders, and management and board. Life is tough, learn to deal with it.

30 posted on 12/03/2008 3:36:24 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: McGruff
The union must be pretty ticked that the renegotiation of their deals (in Congress)comes just weeks after the massive Democratic election victory.

And Liberals thought they were winning.

It is sort of like soldiers overrunning a country only to find that there is very little left to take or eat.

31 posted on 12/03/2008 5:09:19 PM PST by alrea
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To: boxer21
The figure of around 70 an hour includes base pay, overtime, health insurance, and pension contributions.

And yes some of it is paid to guys in "job bank" who do nothing but sit on their thumbs and read the paper and complain about how rough it is for "working families" in America under Bush.

32 posted on 12/03/2008 6:34:25 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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