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I assure you it's not My fault the Bible says that. [Amos 3:7: "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."] Since it does, I have to ask do you believe the bible? or just the parts that agree with you?

No. (What part of 1 Cor. 13:9 is a mystery to you? For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.)

To hear you tell it, the LDS "prophets" have the complete divine "download"--even weather reports & all!
To hear you tell it, "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing..." [Rain, snow, hail, tornado, huricane, Mark Hofmann falsified documents, terrorist attacks on the Twin Towers & India, etc.] "but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."]

Please show me where the church teaches to follow the relations of men and not revelations from God...(you can't)

Give me a break, Delf. Your god is a man! (Joseph Smith repeatedly said so!)

Example: The Scriptures inform us that Jesus said, As the Father hath power in Himself, even so hath the Son power--to do what? Why, what the Father did. The answer is obvious--in a manner to lay down His body and take it up again. Jesus, what are you going to do? To lay down my life as my Father DID, and take it up again. Do you believe it? If you do not believe it, you do not believe the Bible. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 346)

Your god died! (Joseph said so!) He was physically mortal BEFORE he ever became divine! That's your revelatory god!

Besides that, look at how Joseph Smith as a mere man repeatedly contradicted God's revelations from the Bible:

Example 1: An angel of God never has wings. Some will say that they have seen a spirit; that he offered them his hand, but they did not touch it. This is a lie. First, it is contrary to the plan of God: a spirit cannot come but in glory; an angel has flesh and bones..." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 162)

So, Smith called the prophet Isaiah a liar! Isaiah clearly talks about winged angels in Isaiah 6!

Example 2: Daniel in his seventh chapter speaks of the Ancient of Days; he means the oldest man, our Father Adam, Michael...Adam...the first and oldest of all, the great, grand progenitor of whom it is said in another place he is Michael. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp. 157, 167)

(Sorry, Joe. Adam is NOT Michael the Archangel! And, no, Adam is NOT the "ancient of days"...you'll need to study the Bible a bit more to unravel that, LDSaints)

Example 3: Now, we read that many bodies of the Saints arose at Christ's resurrection, PROBABLY all the Saints, but it seems that David did not. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 188)

[Hey wait a minute! Did the Lord raise ALL the saints or not? So now we have the "prophets" of God conjecturing on the "probability" of God's historical truth? Here, you've just lectured me, Delf, on supposedly believing only the parts of the Bible I want to, and/or having a more liberal view of the Bible as a "living document" that can be changed to fit the times? All that because I take issue with the way LDS interpret Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do NOTHING but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.]

Well, based upon Smith's teachings, I guess you can go on to interpret Amos 3:7 to read: surely the Lord Mormon God did nothing like raise all the saints, or maybe it was most of the saints, or perhaps it was some of the saints, or it could have even been multiple-choice lead pencil pick -- a few of the saints without revealething his secret unto his servant the prophet, Joey Smith? (I mean, surely you're not gonna want to back off your interpretation of Amos 3:7 now that you've walked out so far to defend it, right?)

Example 4: I was once praying earnestly upon this subject, and a voice said unto me, 'My son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years of age, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man...I prophesy in the name of the Lord god, and let it be written--the Son of Man will not come in the clouds of heaven till I am eighty-five years old. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 286)

So, since Joe didn't live to be 85...I guess we can conclude that...
...(a) -- He DIDN'T see the face of the Son of Man; and...
...(b) that his accompanying Jesus-returning-in-the-clouds "prophesy" was either a false prophesy (Jesus DIDN'T come in the clouds of heaven when Smith was 85, 'cause He never reached that ripe ole age) OR that it was a totally worthless, meaningless statement -- that Jesus would return sometime after Smith turned 85...I mean, he might as well have said: "I prophesy in the name of the Lord god, and let it be written--the Son of Man will not come in the clouds of heaven till I am one hundred and eighty-five years old." (That would have just been as meaningful!)

So. Are you trying to tell us, Delf, that Hinckley knew about 911 ahead of time? Or that your current "proph" has God's next storm already relayed to him? Remember, now, that your wooden, literal interpretation mandates that the Lord can't do a thing minus telling your "prophet."

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" - Sigmund Freud

God does not always override the weather to rain on your parade, sometimes it's just going to rain and he lets it happen.

God does not tell the prophet before he answers every prayer either.

Give me a break, Delf. Your god is a man! (Joseph Smith repeatedly said so!)

Consider yourself broken the God was man thing is so over blown, tell me mister Trinitatrian, was Jesus fully God and Fully Man? (see! you believe God was a man...)

Your god died! (Joseph said so!) He was physically mortal BEFORE he ever became divine! That's your revelatory god!

So your God did not die? How was your version of Jesus resurrected without dieing?

How did you reversion of Jesus break the bands of death and hell without "going there"?

Besides that, look at how Joseph Smith as a mere man repeatedly contradicted God's revelations from the Bible:

Oh please the Bible is full of contradictions, you cannot agree with all of it because some other part disagrees. for example please tell me from the Bible, exactly how Judas died, no guessing at stuff that's not there please.

So, Smith called the prophet Isaiah a liar! Isaiah clearly talks about winged angels in Isaiah 6!

Remember the "wooden" interpretation you attributed to us? Wings on angels are a denotation of the ability to fly, which angels clearly can do, however, they don't necessarily have big ol white wings sticking out of their backs, it would kind of make them obvious, don't you think?

(Sorry, Joe. Adam is NOT Michael the Archangel! And, no, Adam is NOT the "ancient of days"...you'll need to study the Bible a bit more to unravel that, LDSaints)

Got proof? or are we supposed to take your word for it :-)

[Hey wait a minute! Did the Lord raise ALL the saints or not?

Was David a murderer a saint?

I mean, surely you're not gonna want to back off your interpretation of Amos 3:7 now that you've walked out so far to defend it, right?

I don't believe I was the one to bring up Amos 3:7 As to Joseph smith seeing the coming of the lord, he was killed, first, remember? he didn't live to be 85, so he didn't see the face of the son of man coming in the clouds (you kind of left that part out).

The part about Joseph not living to be 85 proving that it was a false prophecy, well all I can say is work on the reading comprehension, ya missed a few details that were important (like an if) and you know and I know that God knew Joseph was not going to live that long.)