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To: pepperhead
Because they didn't want to be called racist.

Thank you, but this is your opinion only and not an established fact. Do you suppose that Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Newt Gingrich, Sean Hannity, R. Emmett Tyrrell, House & Senate Republicans, Republican state officials, etc etc etc etc were also concerned with being called racist?

Nary a conservative of repute has lent this any validity whatsoever, yet two hack attorneys, Berg and Donofrio are just so exceptionally astute and doggedly determined that they are to be believed?

258 posted on 12/02/2008 10:14:29 PM PST by jla
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To: jla

Yes. Next question.


259 posted on 12/02/2008 10:15:35 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: jla
Ann Coulter, hmmm ... if you a lurking out there, Ann, I would love to hear your take on this "natural born" situation -- not only because you know law, but also because you might have some insight as to why the media is so loath to touch on the issue.
264 posted on 12/02/2008 10:21:12 PM PST by so_real
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To: jla

And that is your opinion.


266 posted on 12/02/2008 10:21:24 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: jla

Conservative of repute? Interesting phrase. How do they establish that reputation? Might it have something to do with avoiding issues that are too controversial and the outcome too uncertain?


267 posted on 12/02/2008 10:23:38 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: jla

I am not in any way, shape or form convinced that Obama is inelgible to serve. How could I be? I do not have access to the facts, nor am I an expert in that area of the law.

That said, there do appear to be significant questions here. For one thing, this controversy has made it abundantly clear that there is NO MECHANISM FOR ENFORCING THE CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARD.

The parties (or the candidate!) have the nominal responsibility to somehow, to some unknown degree, by someone unknow process and procedure “declare” the candidate is constitutionally eligible, but NO ONE has been able to discover that process or challenge it.

Is that sufficient in light of the constitutional harm that would result from failure to determine eligibility? NO.

From that point alone, it is worth getting this issue to daylight. We need some way to official and publicly vet the eligibility of candidates (or at least President and VP selects), and a way to challenge that vetting and a remedy. Even if the SCOTUS says only that and gets Congress to take action, this will have been worth it.

I am not comfortable knowing that some dumb party hack on either side of the aisle is rubberstamping “natural born citizen” on whichever dude they think can win or has won.


302 posted on 12/02/2008 10:48:14 PM PST by fightinJAG (TWO BIG BUSH TAX CUTS EXPIRE AT THE END OF 2008. Happy New Year, love, President Obama)
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To: jla
Nary a conservative of repute has lent this any validity whatsoever,

And that is a sad commentary on the state of our leadership. You don't need to be a genius to look at the fundamental aspects of this issue and conclude that Obama should present his qualifying document to the nation. That our so-called leadership is too afraid, or too uninformed to actually give this historic issue the attention it deserves, is a travesty.

yet two hack attorneys, Berg and Donofrio are just so exceptionally astute and doggedly determined that they are to be believed?

Ad hominem attacks on these gentlemen isn't strengthening your case. It just makes you sound ignorant of the facts.

360 posted on 12/03/2008 12:06:27 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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