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Is the Man of Sin Revealed (and is it 0bama?)
Five Doves ^ | 2 December 2008 | John Tng

Posted on 12/02/2008 11:13:43 AM PST by mkjessup

Ted Porter was insightful regarding Rev 13:18 -- the 666 scripture (see link). Ted wrote:

Why does this verse specify that “him that hath understanding” is required to count the number of the beast? Why does it say “Here is wisdom”? Why can’t just anyone count the name of the beast? Why can’t we just have a computer take names and find out which ones equal 666?"

Note the requirements to solving the riddle: understanding, wisdom and counting. Ted is right. Pure counting alone seems too easy (the way Ted puts it, it takes zero wisdom). Now this whole business of counting the name of the antichrist has been going on for the past 2,000 years. I am not claiming to have more wisdom than every one else, but I think it is because time is short, and people used the wrong calculator to do the counting!

John Tng (2 Dec 2008)
"Is the Man of Sin Revealed?"


I sensed that some doves feel we should look for Jesus, not the son of perdition. But we are looking for Jesus alright when we try to count the name of the antichrist (something not prohibited in Scripture; in fact, the Apostle John teased us with these words, "Let him that hath understanding count the number ...."). The arrival of the antichrist should EXCITE us no end because it means Jesus is AT THE DOOR!

Evidence #1

So many things about Obama is marked with the number 666 it is just breathtaking! But we need first to clear the stumbling block that plagued us up until now. Traditionally we resort to the Hebrew and Greek gematria to work out the identity of Mr. 666. Well, it turns out the right gematria to use is English! If you think about it, this is logical because of who the antichrist is. With names like Hussein, Barry, Soetoro and Obama, are we sure we are able to come up with their equivalents in Hebrew and Greek, with no wriggling room for error?

Once you get past this mental block, and begin to apply the English gematria to Obama, the number 666 just pops like popcorn! The abundance of 666 is proof positive that we have found the man. The remarkable thing about these 666 occurrences is that THEY ARE BIBLICAL! The Author of the Word of God planted clues in the Book and posed us a teaser in chapter 13 verse 18 of the book of Revelation. The chapter and verse numbers of the 666 scripture are instructive: 13 is the number of rebellion and 18 is 6+6+6.

The first evidence that floored me is this. Two years ago Paul Black (a friend of Ian Mallett) posted an intriguing article called 'Counting Numbers' (see link). Paul wrote:

There are four references to 666 in the bible, three in the OT, one in the NT. The three OT references are, 1 Kings 10:14 at 9,094, 2 Chronicles 9:13 at 11,378, and Ezra 2:13 at 12,041. The total is 32,513 or 41 x 793.
 
Revelation 13:18 is 30,927, or 39 x 793. All four verses are therefore 80 x 793. This amazingly high common factor is the eleventh figurate hexagram, or star of David, which is made up of twelve triangles of 66, the eleventh triangular number. Notice the Revelation verse has the 3 x 13 again. The total number of letters in the four verses is 216, or 6 x 6 x 6.

What a remarkable discovery! What is so special about the number 793 that it is a common factor in the four 666 scriptures? An unbiased researcher like Paul Black took notice of it. No doubt he was puzzled by its intimate link with the number 666. Is it chance or design? Is there a purpose for its connection with the number of the beast? I believe there is. Observe that it is a factor of 13, the number of rebellion: 793 = 13 x 61. Astonishingly, it is also the standard English gematria value (see below) of BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!

Standard English Gematria

A=1 B=2 C=3 D=4 E=5 F=6 G=7 H=8 I=9
J=10 K=20 L=30 M=40 N=50 O=60 P=70 Q=80 R=90
S=100 T=200 U=300 V=400 W=500 X=600 Y=700 Z=800  


Barack Hussein Obama =117+572+104=793

B A R A C K  
2 1 90 1 3 20  
H U S S E I N
8 300 100 100 5 9 50
O B A M A    
60 2 1 40 1    

The reader may ask:  But I thought the name of the antichrist is supposed to add to 666, not 793? Perhaps this is the reason why we have failed to identify Obama so far. He is hidden in the four 666 scriptures even though his name is not equal to 666. (Shortly I will show his name does add to 666 in more ways than one!) Obama was born Aug 4, 1961. His birthdate is day 216 that year and the number 216 is 666! This is also the total number of letters of the four 666 verses! The total number of letters in Obama's name is 18 (6+6+6) -- also the verse number of the 666 scripture in Revelation chapter 13! Ted also discovered that the common English gematria (A=6; B=12; C=18...) of BARACK is 216 (666)!

Of the four 666 scriptures, the beast scripture is most stunning in revealing Obama:

Rev 13:18 (6+6+6) = verse 30927  = 13x79313x79313x793 !!!

To put it in English, the 666 beast scripture verse number is REBELLIOUS (13) BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (793) triply emphasized!

Since the antichrist is counterfeit christ, his number is the mirror of JESUS in Hebrew, 397! (see link) The 1189 chapters in the Bible attest to this mirroring: chapter 793 is chapter 397 counting from the last chapter! If you sum all numbers from 1 to 793, the total is 397793 !!!!!

John the Revelator confirms the mirroring as well. The word antichrist is purely Johannine (1 Jn 2:18 twice; 2:22; 4:3; 2 Jn 7). In its first mention, the word appears TWICE for double emphasis. Is there a link between this DOUBLE ANTICHRIST verse and the 666 BEAST verse, both Johannine? You bet! Be amazed by the mirroring below:

1 John 2:18 (18=6+6+6) = verse 30569 = 7 x 11 x 397
    Re 13:18 (18=6+6+6) = verse 30927 = 3 x 13 x 793

What are the chances that the number of verses between them is 359 inclusive, the Hebrew gematria value of SATAN?


Evidence #2

Besides the standard and common English gematria schemes mentioned above, we also have the ordinal (A=1; B=2; C=3; ... Z=26) and reduced values (see link & below).

Reduced English Gematria

A=1 B=2 C=3 D=4 E=5 F=6 G=7 H=8 I=9
J=1 K=2 L=3 M=4 N=5 O=6 P=7 Q=8 R=9
S=1 T=2 U=3 V=4 W=5 X=6 Y=7 Z=8  

The standard, ordinal and reduced values of Barack Hussein Obama are 793, 163 and 64. Scripture records the death of Judas (type of antichrist) in two chapters, Mat 27 and Acts 1. The chapter number of Mat 27 is 956 -- the sum of 793 and 163 -- standard and ordinal values of Barack Hussein Obama! The total number of chapters between Mat 27 and Acts 1 inclusive is 64 -- the reduced value of  Barack Hussein Obama!

Phew! The man is pointed to by Judas Iscariot in the only two chapters that record his death!


Evidence #3

The common English gematria (A=6; B=12; C=18 ...) of Barack Hussein Obama is 978. This does not look like 666. In fact, none of the three values above look like 666. However, the sum of these four values is 793+163+64+978 = 666666 666  !!!!!!!!

Need I say more!?



Evidence #4

Increasingly coincidence is ruled out. Apply the four counting schemes to Obama's real name: BARRY SOETORO. The standard, ordinal, reduced and common values are 1458, 171, 63 and 1026. Again,  none of them looks like 666. The sum of the four values of Barack Hussein Obama is 666 triply emphaized. What about the sum of the four values of Obama's real name, Barry Soetoro? Can we also find the number of the beast? Yes! All it takes is a bit of manipulation of the numbers. It is certainly not the straightforward counting that we are accustomed to, to arrive at the number of the antichrist. But I think you will agree with me the number of the beast is hidden here as well! Subtract the forth value from the first three values: 1458 + 171 + 63 - 1026 = 666  !!!!!!

Hello? Is this confirmation or what!?

Evidence #5
In this evidence, Jesus REVEALED to John the identity of the antichrist! Impossible? With Jesus, all things are possible. He is the Wonderful Numberer. John the Revelator received the antichrist teaser and recorded it in Revelation chapter 13. John the Evangelist was shown the betrayer of Jesus (a type of antichrist) in chapter 13 of his Gospel. Is there a link between these two chapters marked by the number of rebellion, 13?

Take the standard, ordinal and reduced values of Barack Hussein Obama. Begin with Revelation 13 as the first chapter. Count forward the sum of these three values of the antichrist (793+163+64). Can you believe the counting leads us to John 13 when Jesus REVEALED to John the identity of Judas Iscariot in v26 (13+13)?

793+163+64 = 10 (Re 13 to end Bible) + 1189 (total no chapters of Bible) + 1010
Chapter 1010 = John 13 !!

Verse 27 says SATAN entered into Judas, the only person with the dubious honor of being possessed by Lucifer in Scripture! No doubt the antichrist is the Devil incarnate. At the start of this chapter verse 2, John recorded for us the DEVIL put into the heart of Judas to betray Jesus! The name JUDAS ISCARIOT last appears in the Bible in this chapter! 

So, tell me, is it coincidence that Barack Hussein Obama (three gematria values) just fits nicely between John 13 and Revelation 13 -- two antichrist chapters?
Evidence #6
5 million people will be in Washington to witness the inauguration of Obama on Jan 20, 2009. The world is falling all over him! In an interesting post by Hollis Caravetta yesterday (see link), she observed the 666 dimensions of the obelisk: "At the ground level each side of the monument measures 55.5’ long, which is equal to 666”.  As I already mentioned, the height of the obelisk is 555.5’ or 6,666”!"

Obama will be sworn in Jan 20, 2009. Given his immense popularity, let's just say he will go on and win the second term which ends on Jan 20, 2017. What do you know? On that end date, Obama will have lived PRECISELY 55.5 years, that is, 666 months since his birth on Aug 4, 1961!


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The 666 popcorn continues to pop. But I have to end here with more evidences saved for the next time. :(

HE IS AT THE DOOR!  :)

John



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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Without repeating myself on all the points.. I’ve seen that Nostradamus quote here before and it isn’t real. At that, nothing like that exists in his works (as if I gave it any credence in the first place.)

http://mudrac.ffzg.hr/~ltatomir/skripte/knjige/Complete%20Works%20Of%20Nostradamus.pdf


141 posted on 12/02/2008 2:32:35 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Petronski

Petronski,

I would like to apologize for any anti-Catholic behavior that I may have exhibited in the past. Though my positions on the issues haven’t changed, I now realize that we Christians need to work together more than ever and put aside petty arguments.

Please forgive me.

-Mike


142 posted on 12/02/2008 2:33:26 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: DallasMike

Thank you for the kind words. Apology accepted and commended.

Working together despite differences should be the goal of all here.


143 posted on 12/02/2008 2:38:09 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: Petronski

I think we all should remember the Nicene Creed, that we are all part of the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church


144 posted on 12/02/2008 2:39:55 PM PST by mnehring
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To: wolfpat

Off the top of my head I would guess, (66)6, or 10,314,424,798,490,535,546,171,949,056, which is the number of parallel universes accessible through the continua device to the protagonists.

In other words, ten thousand three hundred and fourteen quadrillion, four hundred twenty-four thousand seven hundred and ninety-eight trillion, four hundred and ninety thousand five hundred and thirty-five billion, five hundred and forty-six milliard, one hundred and seventy-one million, nine hundred forty-nine thousand, and fifty-six.

Or ten octillion, three hundred fourteen septillion, four hundred twenty-four sextillion, seven hundred ninety-eight quintillion, four hundred ninety quadrillion, five hundred thirty-five trillion, five hundred forty-six billion, one hundred seventy-one million, nine hundred forty-nine thousand, and fifty six.

What did I win???

;>)


145 posted on 12/02/2008 2:45:03 PM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: Gator113; wolfpat

Good call.. you’ve using Jacob’s Continua Device I see.


146 posted on 12/02/2008 2:50:51 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Actually I used Google.. it took about 1.5 seconds. ;>)


147 posted on 12/02/2008 2:55:25 PM PST by Gator113 ("Noli nothis permittere te terere.")
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To: mkjessup
Bama may fall into an against Christ category, however, he is NOT the instead of Jesus or commonly called ‘anti’-Christ.

WHO tempted Christ????? That is the instead of Jesus who shows up first upon this earth to deceived as many as he can.

148 posted on 12/02/2008 4:01:40 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: F15Eagle
Actually I generally agree with you BION. Obama gets an above average ranking in weird, for me anyways, because he has virtually zero accomplishments, a sketchy, hidden past, 3/4 of a billion dollars put behind him and essentially came from nowhere to take the top political job on the planet.

He's naught but a polished, programed puppet = a useful idiot of his puppeteers, the real Masters behind the curtain.

He has served his purpose. They now have the reigns of power. They have/will make the decisions. Simply look to the picks 'he' made for his cabinet. Why does anyone think they are HIS choices?

They will prop him up with pretty things, like the "Office of the President Elect" to keep his ego stroked and keep him busy while they take our country apart. He is owned, lock, stock and barrel. He would be wise to keep the sheet over the mirror in the attic.

The suit has no emperor.

149 posted on 12/02/2008 4:46:35 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: Petronski; Dallas
Thank you for the kind words. Apology accepted and commended. Working together despite differences should be the goal of all here.

Does that mean that perhaps the Mormons will be included in the cum by yah, as if they were real people too?

150 posted on 12/02/2008 4:58:36 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: mnehrling
I think we all should remember the Nicene Creed, that we are all part of the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church

I prefer to go back 300+ years before the Nicene Creed and remember what JESUS taught.

151 posted on 12/02/2008 5:00:12 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: pgkdan

YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES ONE JUST HAS TO YELL


152 posted on 12/03/2008 4:29:54 AM PST by dixjea
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To: mnehrling

Some things, and people never change. I ran across that site many years ago. Although I didn’t do the searches that you did, I followed the site for a few years just to see what they would do when all their predictions, John Tng being in the forefront of that. And since it is his site, he allows all the others to do the same. Time after time, their emotional posts are filled with all sorts of signs and/or numerology (occultic)in all their predictios of the antichrist, the raptuer, some judgment here or there. Then, when the dates pass, or the people do not prove to be who they said, nothing is said, because the next few rounds of it had already started. It wasn’t until a bit later that they started to remove the false ones. I am not suprised. What has always surprised me is that even after false theory after false theory after false theory for at least 11 years now, they still go at it with the same intensity. What happened to people learning from their mistakes???


153 posted on 12/03/2008 4:31:43 AM PST by lupie
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To: Taffini

That thread really cracked me up.


154 posted on 12/03/2008 6:23:04 AM PST by PrairieRoot (Here's hoping Global Warning extends the hunting and logging seasons.)
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To: RobRoy

but


155 posted on 12/03/2008 1:20:33 PM PST by quickquiver (No, means N O.)
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To: mnehrling

Please check this source:

Thanks!

http://stason.org/TULARC/new-age/nostradamus/25-Antichrist-s-rise-to-power-in-Middle-East.html


156 posted on 12/03/2008 7:37:52 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

The language isn’t even in Nostrodoofus’s style, looks like someone’s own translation of what they think he meant. The link I gave you above is a .pdf with all the writings and direct translations.


157 posted on 12/03/2008 7:53:16 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Well if you read my post you realize I don’t seriously suggest that Obama is the AntiChrist, I merely am adding food for thought to the debate.

And I am sorry my source for Nostrodamnus doesn’t meet your high standards!

I didn’t realize that I should only quote “Authorized Nostrodamus” sources...

I’ll take your comments under advisement.


158 posted on 12/03/2008 8:37:16 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Its not ‘my high standards’, there is just so much fake stuff out there, like pretty much everything else on the Internet. Remember after 9.11 where someone made up some completely bogus predictions and everyone fell for it. The point is not falling for stuff folks just pull out of their butt.


159 posted on 12/03/2008 8:43:31 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

OK. I am no ‘Nostrdamus’ expert but as you can see I didn’t make this up.


160 posted on 12/06/2008 8:52:10 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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