Posted on 12/01/2008 2:43:49 PM PST by fanfan
The upcoming confidence vote is on Tory economic policy which they are upset about.
Thanks for the report. I had just heard about this today and was wondering what was going on.
You might be able to use this phrase, someday:
“Selected, not elected”
It’s not really un-kosher. There are more of “them” in Parliament.
“Again this has the fingerprints of Obama all over it.”
LMAO. You think that twit is involved in international intrigue? That’s a good one.
I doubt he even cares beyond a “oh that’s nice” reaction.
from what I’ve read, it will be up to the Governor General to either call a snap election or to allow the combined left to govern. The Gov General appears to be a member of the Liberal Party, soooo...
but if snap elections do occur, there could be a furious backlash that’d result in a conservative majority.
This is a massive coup instigated on behalf of certain corporate interests within Ontario and Quebec (linked to the automotive industry and unions writ large). The rest of Canada will get shafted by the coalition’s corporate welfare platform.
The only chance for Conservatives (who bit off a lot more than they could chew since the last election - prudence has not been on the menu for the past few weeks) is to engineer an election and hope enough centrist Liberals (in just enough key ridings) vote Conservative in renunciation of the NDP and Bloc. It is not likely mind you. Not to sound defeatist, but this is not a good time to be an incumbent anywhere - even a minority government incumbent. Things do not look good no matter how they play their hand.
Still, this is a transient threat - flamesuit on, but the Liberals had been fairly benign while in power (both as the majority under Chretien, and as minority under Paul Martin) and I cannot see support for the party being sustained if they drift too far into NDP policy territory. Dion’s Green Shaft has already been publicly vilified by members of his own party (Ignatieff and Rae) and is unlikely to get traction, especially with the economy in the state it is in. I cannot see a coalition persisting for long without the Liberals going full socialist and alienating their core constituency.
I hope not.
FF I pm’ed you....could you start a thread on the rallies for your Canada list. There are more rallies coming than what I emailed you and it would be good to have them all in one thread.
Rideau Hall protest
December 4 all-day protest in front of Rideau Hall, the home of Canada’s Governor-General.
Join us Thursday at Rideau Hall to show that Canadians don’t want a government we didn’t vote for IMPOSED on US.
We are going to camp out infront of Rideau Hall to make sure our voice is heard!
When: Thursday, December 4th, from 10 am to 11 pm.
> I hope not.
So do I. We need adults in charge somewhere.
This will destroy the Liberal Party.
It won’t be pretty, but it is necessary.
Whattcha'll expect? The president of the world needs every nation to fall into line with his "New World Order" and their fascist agenda.
They just had one like 2 months ago
Isn't the Governor General the official representative of the British Monarchy within the Canadian government? If so, then the Queen Elizabeth II's representative can interfere with the Canadian government. I wonder how the Canadians would react to such interference.
The GG is Canadian born and has been since, what, 1952? They have been largely anti-monarchy of late. So I doubt she would do anything.
...their plan to assume government would require the blessing of the Governor General. Under the deal, the Liberal caucus would be responsible for choosing the finance minister, a key role as the country faces economic storms. The NDP would get six positions in the 24-member cabinet as well as six parliamentary secretary positions.Thanks fanfan.
Is the Governor General only symbolic or does she have any substantive powers? If it’s only symbolic, why have a symbol of the British Government within the Canadian Government?
“If Conservatives had tried a similar tack against a leftist gov’t, we damn well know what the media would call it.”
Uhhh.....Harper actually proposed much the same when he was in Opposition. How is this appreciably different?
“Why can’t Harper call a snap election?”
Because the decision isn’t his to make. He can go to the GG but she’s entirely within her purview to ask the other parties to form the government. I mean they’ve already demonstrated a willingness to step up to the plate so there’s nothing much he can do except maybe prorogue Parliament and pray that he can pull his keister out of the fire. My money says Caesar didn’t face so many knives waiting to be unsheathed.
“Let me get this straight:
Canada held a legal election in which the conservatives won”
Short answer, no; they didn’t win. They got a larger minority vote but still a minority government. They needed the support of another party to govern and they lost the support of that party.
Yeah, that’s what I meant. But since the Conservatives have the largest block of seats, won’t they still command some influence? Or can they be completely shut out if the opposition parties pull together a sufficient coalition?
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