I believe the Justices will fully hear Leo Donofrio’s case and in voting on Friday to hear the case they will order an immediate stay. That will put a hold on the Electoral College vote until a ruling is made. I may be wrong, but that is the way I see it.
You earlier stated the 14th Amendment would apply to Obama which would make him a natural born citizen.
The way I see it, it would make him a citizen, but not “natural born”. The definition of “natural born” is still under question but I still believe it is someone born of parents who are both US citizens and born on US soil. Not just one or the other, but both in order to hold the Office of President.
And I disagree. But we'll find out sooner or later, perhaps as early as next week.
You earlier stated the 14th Amendment would apply to Obama which would make him a natural born citizen. The way I see it, it would make him a citizen, but not “natural born”. The definition of “natural born” is still under question but I still believe it is someone born of parents who are both US citizens and born on US soil. Not just one or the other, but both in order to hold the Office of President.
The definition should not be under question since federal law and Supreme Court cases have both established it. One of the reasons why I don't believe the Court will find Donofrio's arguements persuasive. For them to agree with Donofrio, or you, would mean Obama and McCain are both ineligible, and could make it hard for any candidate to establish credentials. Giuliani, for example, would have to prove that his grandparents on both sides were naturalized citizens before his mother and father were both born, otherwise they are not U.S. citizens. And if they are not U.S. citizens then Giuliani is not a U.S. citizen. The arguements would be endless.
“I believe the Justices will fully hear Leo Donofrio’s case and in voting on Friday to hear the case they will order an immediate stay. That will put a hold on the Electoral College vote until a ruling is made. I may be wrong, but that is the way I see it.
You earlier stated the 14th Amendment would apply to Obama which would make him a natural born citizen.
The way I see it, it would make him a citizen, but not “natural born”. The definition of “natural born” is still under question but I still believe it is someone born of parents who are both US citizens and born on US soil. Not just one or the other, but both in order to hold the Office of President.”
I THINK THEY WILL STAY THE EC TOO - UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED ...
As for “natural born” - I agree, and I think this is the crux of Donofrio’s arguement.
“Natural born” is not defined - anywhere, but I believe that it is a COMBINATION of two (2) rights of citizenship:
1. Jus Soli: (of the soil). If you are born on U.S. soil, you are a “citizen”.
2. Jus Sanguinis: (of the blood). You derive your citizenship from your father - you are a “citizen” of his country.
A “natural born” citizen possesses BOTH Jus Soli AND Jus Sanguinis ...
Birth on national soil is not a prerequisite of Natural born. There are only two kinds of citizens not some third hybrid.
Birth to officials on government duty grants Natural birth.