Posted on 11/30/2008 6:09:20 PM PST by Red Steel
Citizenship Issue on MSNBC Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The parents would be issued a Certification of Live Birth.
This is not proof of where the child was born. It only proves that the parents claimed Hawaii as their main place of residence for the prior year.
British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.
A natural born citizen, would not be a citizen of any other nation than the United States. That is what "natural born" means. By nature, the child, would be only a US citizen, because both of his parents were US citizens, and NO OTHER NATION, can by law claim him to be under their jurisdiction, at the moment of his birth. That was not the case with Obama. He was, by law, a Citizen of the United Kingdom, the moment he was born, and then, by law, he became a citizen of Kenya on Dec. 12, 1963.
For a more detailed explaination of natural born citizen, see my other related video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2kKN...
To answer your question, because it seems that terrorism, pedophilia, and now the office of President of the United States appear to be the root password to the Constitution.
If he’s not natural born, then he must “adjourn”
Here’s an interesting post compiled by a freeper a few weeks ago.
Perhaps you can answer these questions so we won’t waste our time:
Why was his name Barry Soetoro?
Was he Barry Dunham Soetoro?
Why now is his name Barack Hussein 0bama?
Did he attend US Universities on a Foreign Student Visa?
Is he an illegal alien?
Original birth certificate ——————————Unavailable
Obama/Dunham marriage license -————Unavailable
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license ———— Unavailable
Soetoro adoption records-————————— Unavailable
Dept. of Education Hawaii Kindergarten Records——Unavailable
Punahou School records-————————Unavailable
Occidental College records ————————Unavailable
Passport (Pakistan) -——————— Unavailable
Columbia College ——————Unavailable
No one remembers him at Columbia.
Columbia thesis ————Unavailable
Harvard College records ———————Unavailable
Harvard Law Review articles —————— Unavailable
(Evidence that one may have been written, yet it is unsigned)
Baptism certificate ————————Unavailable
Medical records ————————Unavailable
Illinois State Senate records ———————None
Illinois State Senate schedule————————Lost
Law practice client list —————— Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles –——— None on file
Indonesian Besuki School Application—————Located
(Enrolled with name Barry Soetoro-faith “Islam”)
Selective Service Registration— Recently Released, but suspected as fraudulent
I was being sarcastic. I will fight this birth certificate/Constitutional crisis with or without Freepers. This is about a President thumbing his nose at a document he is supposed to swear to protect for us.
No, I think that was just the reaction to the reporter. That particular reporter has a certain reputation. The eye rolling was before he asked the questions. I think it was after Lester said he had two questions.
Then neither should we. The authority for income taxes comes from the Constitution. If the document doesn’t apply to Obama, then it shouldn’t for us either.
Gee willikers! Could Pakistan have picked a worse time to muscle in on India and threaten Israel (by implication) with nuclear counterstrikes? I mean, after all, it is records of Obama's trip to Pakistan that could hold the key to his future, now isn't it?
Here's the last deuce from the Annenberg fact-challenged spin-team:
The newest falsehood goes like this: Obama was legally adopted by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, and thus lost his American citizenship in favor of Indonesian citizenship. Sorry, that’s bogus, too. Because Obama was born in the U.S., he could not lose his citizenship as a child. It could be revoked only if he became a citizen of another country as an adult, and if that country didn’t permit dual citizenship. A glance at the relevant statute shows that all the conditions for loss of nationality are reserved for people over 18 — except for treason, fighting for a hostile army and formal renunciation of citizenship, all of which Obama was a bit young for at age 6. In two of those cases, his citizenship still would have been safe as long as he affirmed it when he turned 18. (Loss of citizenship for treason has no exemptions.)Oh, maybe treason is a part of this mix after all. Still the man was elected in a bloody landslide!We’ve even seen a rather jaw-dropping variant that holds that Obama can’t be a citizen because he was born to a teenage mother. Don’t fall for this one, either. Its rationale involves a lot of hand-waving and some twisting of a law that doesn’t apply to people born in the United States (section G here). It’s just another example of a rumor scrambling for a foothold.
Er, no, that is not what natural born means. Someone can be a natural born citizen of the US, but also be a citizen at birth of another country. Other countries' laws regarding the citizenship of a newborn have no effect on whether or not a child is a natural born US citizen.
Ok good. I was getting a little peeved.
Judge will not overturn election and give it to McCain. If BO is disqualified before the Electoral College meets, the EC can select another person per their state’s direction. The person selected will be a Democrat because most of the delegates are Dems, and it will be anyone other than BO. Thus Biden can be selected or Clinton. If the EC meets and selects BO because he has all the delegates, and the court decides BO is not qualified, only Congress can remove BO per the impeachment process.
“If Obama were born in Kenya he would have had similar problems and those problems would have left a paper trail.”
UNLESS Mommy had Granny apply for a “bogus” COLB ...
I thought somebody found his thesis but I am still looking. Did find the supposed topic:
“Meanwhile, Noam Scheiber writes about reporters’ efforts to get their hands on a copy of Barack Obama’s senior thesis, all copies of which have apparently gone missing from Columbia. The thesis was about nuclear negotiating strategies of the United States during the Cold War, and Obama’s professor says it’s unlikely to be controversial, and Noam concedes that it’s an “exceedingly small deal” but still that “your default posture as a journalist, rather than a partisan or an operative, is that you always want more insight into the person your covering. I don’t think it’s at all unreasonable for us to push to see a project that Obama labored on for a year.”
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/thesis_follies.php
Now I know where O’Bammy’s “Tic” comes from!!!
He reads FR!!!...LOL;0)
Issue is not if BO is born in US or not. His father is Kenyan and at the time of BO birth he is a British subject (Kenya was still a British colony) and US citizen by his mother. Per founding father’s original intent, BO is not considered natural born. SCOTUS needs to rule on this. If BO has a BC the case would resolve why he fought to release it to the public.
Don’t democrats have the states since 2006?
“Let this birth certificate thing go!”
Just wondering..have you read your own tagline?
“The factcheck site is dated 10/23/08 but the page data shows that it was updated today at about 6:00 GMT.”
How does one check the page data?
If that is the case, how did Mama Obama get Baby Obama into the United States without documentation.
U.S. Customs do not let people walk into the country with an undocumented baby.
So, maybe we have some cause for the twitch in the eye?
Did you not see the /s behind what I said?
I was making fun of the Freepers who come to these threads and say we are silly and should just fight Obama on the issues. Like a couple on this thread.
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