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Update on Barack Obama's Birth Certificate Issue
Right Side News ^ | November 30, 2008

Posted on 11/30/2008 6:09:20 PM PST by Red Steel

Citizenship Issue on MSNBC Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The parents would be issued a Certification of Live Birth.

This is not proof of where the child was born. It only proves that the parents claimed Hawaii as their main place of residence for the prior year.

British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.

A natural born citizen, would not be a citizen of any other nation than the United States. That is what "natural born" means. By nature, the child, would be only a US citizen, because both of his parents were US citizens, and NO OTHER NATION, can by law claim him to be under their jurisdiction, at the moment of his birth. That was not the case with Obama. He was, by law, a Citizen of the United Kingdom, the moment he was born, and then, by law, he became a citizen of Kenya on Dec. 12, 1963.

For a more detailed explaination of natural born citizen, see my other related video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2kKN...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; stbc; thekenyan
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To: txflake; tips up; Ballygrl; Red Steel; FrdmLvr

I don’t mean to spoil the party, it’s fun stuff. Enjoy! keep digging.

The secret to beating Obama will be strategy. Democrats tried the court route for many issues and very few of those worked(mostly terrorist rights). It was Pelosi’s carefully controlled constant ‘attack GWB on issues/news events’ strategy. ‘Carefully controlled’ meaning keeping the ‘impeach Bush’ crowd :Sheenan, Conyers, Dennis Kucinich down.

I am dying to see elected Republicans start thinking politically. Dems do everything political, but well. Our side seems clueless.


41 posted on 11/30/2008 6:54:38 PM PST by sickoflibs (McCain asks: "Did you stupid conservatives really believe me? HA-HA-HA, wait til 09")
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There are many parallels between Dr. Sun Yat Sen and Obama, yet one glaring thing stands-out. Dr. Sun Yat Sen worked very hard all his life for others, becoming a medical doctor, then taking up the cause of Liberty, as he understood it. Sun Yat Sen was a full man, coming close to our own George Washington. Still, even he fell prey to Marx's ideologies and that fondness for the despotic politics and economics of Marx created a chasm that today splits China into two countries.

Sun Yat Sen was a full man, whose live was lived for others. Obama is an empty suit, all vanity and charm, whose actions are all for himself.

Obama, though, has a virtue -- he is honest in what motivates him. He always says "I will decide ...", "What I think is best ...", "What I will do ...", "My ideas will ..."

Obama is deceptive, but not in in speaking to his "I"-ness.

42 posted on 11/30/2008 6:54:52 PM PST by bvw
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To: utahagen

I am an American who was born overseas and that fact has presented bureaucratic problems for me throughout my life. Everything from getting into school, to being tossed in an INS holding tank to being shaken down at customs at US Airports at least 50 times.

If Obama were born in Kenya he would have had similar problems and those problems would have left a paper trail.


43 posted on 11/30/2008 6:56:01 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: LucyT

Yeah, well, I guess openness can’t be avoided. Hooray for that clickable link, and what it might draw here.


44 posted on 11/30/2008 6:57:33 PM PST by bvw
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To: sickoflibs
Many Republicans seem to like being the minority party. Less responsibility and accountability that way. Most don't have the cajones to fight the Dems on their turf. Like a wrestler or boxer trying to take on a street fighter with a knife.
45 posted on 11/30/2008 6:57:49 PM PST by tips up
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To: bvw

Has anyone seen these sites today?

http://wire.factcheck.org/2008/10/23/obamas-citizenship-and-survival-of-the-fittest/

and/or

http://snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

The factcheck site is dated 10/23/08 but the page data shows that it was updated today at about 6:00 GMT.

I think they are starting to tapdance around the issue, as I don’t remember these two mouthpieces of Camp Obama addressing the issues of Natural Born Citizenship and renunciation/affirmation of citizenship upon returning from Indonesia...all hypothetical analysis, of course /s.

By starting to spin on these issues, I can’t help but think that this issue is starting to worry them.


46 posted on 11/30/2008 6:58:03 PM PST by Shady Ray
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To: redbloodredstate
your wasting your efforts.

Welcome to FR.

your wasting is a sad thing try to eat a little more have some leftover turkey.

47 posted on 11/30/2008 6:59:58 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: utahagen
Not one freeper who thinks this is a waste of time has responded to my particular points, but I'll keep trying.

[snip]

I think it is important that someone who is going to be President prove he meets the requirements that constitution states must be met to be president.

Thank you, utahagen. A lot of people on this forum agree with you.

48 posted on 11/30/2008 7:00:53 PM PST by LucyT (.......................Don't go wobbly now.......................)
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To: mplsconservative

wish i could, i polished it all off yesterday.


49 posted on 11/30/2008 7:01:31 PM PST by redbloodredstate
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Let this birth certificate thing go! Let’s beat him on the issues! /s


50 posted on 11/30/2008 7:01:37 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Red Steel
The justice system has always selectively followed the law. Such is a nation of men.
51 posted on 11/30/2008 7:03:29 PM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: redbloodredstate

Go for the cranberry then. It’s red.


52 posted on 11/30/2008 7:03:36 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: trumandogz

I’d take President Biden over Obama anyday.


53 posted on 11/30/2008 7:03:37 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: trumandogz
What you're saying makes sense, and that's why I think it impossible that Obama was born in Kenya. However, the point isn't why any particular presidential candidate is surely eligible for office; it's about following procedures that, if applied to EVERY presidential candidate, will ensure that ANYONE who is ineligible to be president is prevented from running. Whether you (very reasonably) think Obama is eligible is irrelevant. There is a simple way for Obama to prove he is a natural-born citizen and that is by publishing a verified copy of his birth certificate. Arguments on Free Republic — however valid — should not settle this issue.
54 posted on 11/30/2008 7:05:33 PM PST by utahagen
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Lester asked about it at a White House press briefing. I think it is likely he will bring it up again.


55 posted on 11/30/2008 7:05:46 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: sickoflibs

Wait a minute sick of libs!!

I remember you!

I just posted a post mocking someone would who come on the COLB threads and whine about how we should beat Obama on the issues. And it was YOU I was mocking!

And now he was elected! And YOU STILL say we should work on strategy.

Hmmmm


56 posted on 11/30/2008 7:06:09 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Oh groan.


57 posted on 11/30/2008 7:06:14 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: autumnraine

No way. The bc issue stays.


58 posted on 11/30/2008 7:06:43 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Stentor
Does that mean that we can also count out Bobby Jindal?

It would.

How would Bobby Jindal be ruled out? Last I heard, Baton Rouge was part of the US.

59 posted on 11/30/2008 7:07:56 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: RummyChick

Yeah, and the White House attempted to make the question itself out to be loony toon stuff by WH press guy rolling his eyes in a most infantile way.


60 posted on 11/30/2008 7:08:13 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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