Posted on 11/30/2008 6:09:20 PM PST by Red Steel
Citizenship Issue on MSNBC Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The parents would be issued a Certification of Live Birth.
This is not proof of where the child was born. It only proves that the parents claimed Hawaii as their main place of residence for the prior year.
British Nationality Act of 1948 (Part II, Section 5): Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth.
A natural born citizen, would not be a citizen of any other nation than the United States. That is what "natural born" means. By nature, the child, would be only a US citizen, because both of his parents were US citizens, and NO OTHER NATION, can by law claim him to be under their jurisdiction, at the moment of his birth. That was not the case with Obama. He was, by law, a Citizen of the United Kingdom, the moment he was born, and then, by law, he became a citizen of Kenya on Dec. 12, 1963.
For a more detailed explaination of natural born citizen, see my other related video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp2kKN...
your wasting your efforts.
I guess it doesn’t matter where he was born since his father was a british subject. He could have been born in times square and still not be natural born.
"If you need an original document 'lost',
brown-bag us; your 'pardon' is no extra cost."
Okay, you are not wasting your efforts but just pathing the path for a President Biden.
The adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment obviously affects how we view natural-born citizens because for the first time there is a national rule of who may by birth be a citizen of the United States. Who may be born citizens of the States is conditional upon being born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. The legislative definition of subject to the jurisdiction thereof was defined as Not owing allegiance to anybody else.
One universal point most all early publicists agreed on was natural-born citizen must mean one who is a citizen by no act of law. If a person owes their citizenship to some act of law (naturalization for example), they cannot be considered a natural-born citizen. This leads us to defining natural-born citizen under the laws of nature - laws the founders recognized and embraced.
Applying for Hawaiian Home Lands
"In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."
Department of Hawaiian Home Lands
Link originally found in article from the American Thinker.
COULD Sun Yat-sen, revered by both the People's Republic of China and the Nationalist government on Taiwan, be a son of Hawaii?There's a birth certificate that says so, but even Sun renounced it in due course. It did, however, help him circumvent the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, which became applicable when Hawaii was annexed to the United States in 1898.
The certificate, issued by the Territory of Hawaii in March 1904, declared he had been born in Kula, Maui, where his relatives lived. As a "citizen of Hawaii" he could travel to the U.S. mainland in the early 1900s to rally both support and funds for his revolutionary efforts. Some Chinese friends attested to the birth.
His Punahou teacher, Francis Damon, certified to his good character but did not swear on the issue of birth. Damon is the grandfather of attorney Frank Damon, a major present-day supporter of Punahou.
Sun spent only a semester at Punahou in 1883. He spoke no word of English when he arrived in Hawaii in 1879 at age 13, but four years later received an English grammar prize at Iolani School, personally presented by King Kalakaua.
Sun was a notable first among Asian revolutionaries who used Hawaii to gather strength for their challenges to tyranny back home.
Honolulu Star-Bulletin, March 16, 2000
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2000/03/16/editorial/smyser.html
See linked post above.
Does that mean that we can also count out Bobby Jindal?
But he hasn’t been elected yet.
But if it can be proven that he does not qualify, his presidency will be totally invalid. Surely the Supremes can see this and know that they must act...IF it is proven I don’t see how they can avoid acting even though it will probably bring about civil war.
It would thrill me beyond words should the chosen one be declared ineligble but no judge or justice in this country is going to disqualify the first person to become President through affirmative action.
The media hated Nixon so they had no problem getting him.
They love Obama though.
Thank you, bvw. Interesting post. Hope you don’t mind, here’s a clickable link.
Honolulu Star-Bulletin, March 16, 2000
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2000/03/16/editorial/smyser.html
Ping.
It would.
Big IF. One can wish though...
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