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To: spatso; Texas_shutterbug
You might want to read a book, Deafeating The Totalitarian Lie.

It was written by a German who grew up during the 30s, was in the Hitler Youth, and on the eastern front during WWII. He compares what their Germany was like during those times w/what's benn going on in our country over the last 20+ years. It's chilling to say the least.

He blames the acceptance of Nazi propaganda on the lazy population for not standing for God's moral absoluties and taking a strong Christian stand against the oppressors.

He said, "If you keep God from the political process, you invite disaster -- as it happened in Germany, the Godless ran the German nation into the ground and they are at it again. America is no different."

I purchase many copies of this book for Christmas presents for friends and relatives. It's an essential read.

54 posted on 11/29/2008 11:10:25 AM PST by Rockyrich
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To: spatso; Texas_shutterbug
Sorry the link didn't work. Here it is: Defeating The Totalitarian Lie
55 posted on 11/29/2008 11:15:17 AM PST by Rockyrich
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To: Rockyrich
However, it is the RIGHT in this country that mainly supported an act of aggression against another nation. The Iraqi people were not and are not our oppressors, but some here would oppress the Iraqis in the name of Christ. When discussing the war, they have more in common with Nazi Germany than the "other" side.

Scanning the reviews over at Amazon, I thought this one review was particularly interesting:

"It is a sick twist of irony that von Campe fails to identify the real cause of the Nazi era horrors: heightened, and forced, patriotism; the myth of cultural purity; increased appetite for violence and military "revenge" overseas; a populace too afraid or unwilling to criticize the government; and, importantly, an overemphasis on ideology over practicality in solving the problems of society.

In all cases, the principal movement behind these ideals in modern-day America is the *right-wing*. It's so uncanny that part of me wonders if von Campe still carries Nazi ideals within him that he has appeared to have expunged. And by "part of me", I mean "most of me."

Thanks to a heavily-coordinated propaganda campaign, at one point, 86% of the US supported attacking Iraq because Hussein harbored WMDs, even though the existence of the weapons was disproven. More scary was the near-unanimity for support (this, in a country where we are constantly divided 50/50 over everything!); the Nazis could have only wished for the same level of support.

Secular ideals, those that have served the US well for more than a couple of centuries, are under attack by ideologues who are convinced that they speak for God and who are impervious to reason.

Fortunately, our nation seems to have regained its common sense, so this book will only appeal to an embittered minority who have proven themselves to be on the wrong side of history, time and time again." end of quote

I very much agree with that reviewer. I an a stong comitted christian, but the right scares me. Sinclair Lewis was correct: "WHEN FASCISM COMES TO AMERICA, IT WILL COME WRAPPED IN THE FLAG AND CARRYING A CROSS."

One can be a Christian and one can be a conservative, and still see the truth of that statement.

56 posted on 11/29/2008 11:30:16 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Rockyrich

I am sorry but I think your well intentioned thoughts are misguided.


57 posted on 11/29/2008 11:38:02 AM PST by spatso
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