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Doves keep the faith as Obama team tilts right (building panic in Leftie Land)
Politico ^ | 11/27/08 | Martin

Posted on 11/27/2008 7:42:25 AM PST by pabianice

Leading opponents of the war have mostly been silent as president-elect Barack Obama, who first built his national image on the foundation of his early opposition to the Iraq war, assembles a group of national security hands that is anything but a team of doves.

It's a disorienting moment for the peace wing of the Democratic Party, at once elated America selected a new president opposed to the Iraq war and momentarily disoriented by the imminent removal of a commander-in-chief whose every action they've opposed for the past eight years.

“Shock has paralyzed them for the moment,” said Steven Clemons, a senior fellow at the New America Foundation who writes The Washington Note, a popular foreign policy blog. “We are in an Obama bubble now. And it’s tough to step out and be first to deflate the bubble.”

Especially, he added, before that bubble takes shape.

“You’ve got some people like myself who are saying there may be an interesting design in what Obama is trying to do. Maybe it doesn’t fit easily in a neatly sculpted box of liberal pacifist and warmonger hawk. Maybe it’s more complex than that.”

Still, it’s clearly a team that tilts to the right of Democratic foreign policy thought.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2008; bhodod; bhogwot; bhosecdef; obama; obamatransitionfile
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To: pabianice
“You’ve got some people like myself who are saying there may be an interesting design in what" ___fill in the blank___ "is trying to do. Maybe it doesn’t fit easily in a neatly sculpted box of" ___fill in the blank___. "Maybe it’s more complex than that.”

Gotta say, what jumped out at me first was how familiar this sentiment is across the board in presidential politics. I swear I heard these same types of comments regarding GWB!

It is WAY better to watch this play out on the liberals side!

21 posted on 11/27/2008 7:57:27 AM PST by GirlNextDoor
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To: pabianice
Doves keep the faith as Obama team tilts right (building panic in Leftie Land)

I listened to NPR news a little this morning (opposition research,
of course).
Juan Williams (also of FOX) said there was some unhappiness at
left-wing blogs about Obama's appointments.
The lefties are not rioting yet. But they ain't happy either.
22 posted on 11/27/2008 7:58:19 AM PST by VOA
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To: misterrob

If Obama and McCain had essentially the same politics, then what exactly was the election about then, just personality?


23 posted on 11/27/2008 7:59:02 AM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: ken21

Didn’t Obama actually vote against the war BEFORE he was in the senate. His spirit was there.


24 posted on 11/27/2008 7:59:42 AM PST by nufsed
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To: pabianice
Rubin, Geithner, Summers, architects of the current quagmire and all loyal Clintonoid 'rats.
25 posted on 11/27/2008 8:00:07 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: pabianice

Obama is a virtual 3rd Bush term with a Clinton rehash cabinet.


26 posted on 11/27/2008 8:00:12 AM PST by omega4179 (Pardon Ramos and Compean)
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To: nufsed

“It’s ironic and telling that we have a president-elect who defeated his primary opponent by running on “immediate pull-out in Iraq.” Then he defeated an opponent who goaded him into actually going to Iraq, after which he changed his position. The peacniks still vote for him after he basically adopted Hillary’s position.”

It’s called Suspension of Disbelief. Lefty moonbats do it all the time when it suits their agenda. Add a fawning MSM and you wind up with a Barry O.


27 posted on 11/27/2008 8:00:52 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: pabianice

This is OLD NEWS.

Obama signalled last summer that Gates would be kept on and that there would be no substantial change in Iraq policy.

Maliki even endorsed him. I am certain Obama was involved in the troop status negotiations with Bush and Maliki.

Bush wanted Obama, and he used Iraq and the Economy to help him win.


28 posted on 11/27/2008 8:02:03 AM PST by Boiling Pots (Anthony Kennedy: The 2nd most important person in Government 2009-2013. Pray for his good health.)
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To: pabianice

I think Obama has made the calculation that he can throw the anti-war fringe overboard because these kooks will support him no matter what. They’ll never under any circumstances support a Republican, so what does he have to lose here, other than having to endure Code Pinkos infiltrating congressional hearings?


29 posted on 11/27/2008 8:03:17 AM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: pabianice

AMAZING WHAT A FEW INTELLIGENCE BRIEFINGS HAVE DONE FOR “THE ONE’S” WORLD VIEW.


30 posted on 11/27/2008 8:03:25 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: pabianice

Maybe it’s the holiday and maybe it was because I was up late but anyone else have a slight glimmer of hope this may not be as horrible as we thought?


31 posted on 11/27/2008 8:04:46 AM PST by rexgrossmansonlyfan (I got it bad. I live in the state Obama was elected to the Senate from IN HILLARYS HOMETOWN!)
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To: pabianice

Over at DU they are eating their own


32 posted on 11/27/2008 8:05:27 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: garbanzo
If Obama and McCain had essentially the same politics, then what exactly was the election about then, just personality?

The election was about race. Clinton would have wiped out a White Obama in the primaries, all else being equal.

33 posted on 11/27/2008 8:06:08 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: misterrob

Some of these pacifists may get a little less so when the type of terrorist attack that is happenining in India now starts to happen here. What will Obama do? The peace mongers just don’t get that it’s us or them.

My mom recently got searched before getting on a flight and she said she had to laugh because the muslim looking guys in front of her in line got on the plane with no search whatsoever and she had been a little scared thinking they were on the plane with her and she had expected security to search them. Instead, they single out a seventy year old woman? A couple of liberals I told this story to said it was my mom’s fault for having those thoughts about the guys with darker skin color. Karma.

We are so screwed!


34 posted on 11/27/2008 8:06:22 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: misterrob
Barry understands that leaving Iraq cold could have dire consequences. Of course his supporting lefties can't think past their next latte.

I don't think the the peace-nicks really realize what would happen of our military just quit and came home.

35 posted on 11/27/2008 8:08:04 AM PST by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: pabianice
> "Maybe it doesn’t fit easily in a neatly sculpted box of liberal pacifist and warmonger hawk. Maybe it’s more complex than that."

OR.... maybe Obama DOESN'T HAVE CLUE ONE about what he's doing.

"Some people couldn't get a clue during clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if he smeared his body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance."

36 posted on 11/27/2008 8:08:05 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: hinckley buzzard

But here’s the thing, if Obama had run as a Republican centrist, he would have been creamed in the election as well. So it seems as if Democrats have to look like leftists, but assure the powers-that-be they are centrists to win - if they’re black. If they’re Republicans who run as centrists, they lose regardless of race.


37 posted on 11/27/2008 8:10:34 AM PST by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: johnnycap

Mark my words, Obama’s biggest opponents, obstacles, and problems will come from the left and not the right. Reid and Pelosi are just two of them.


38 posted on 11/27/2008 8:11:17 AM PST by ShandaLear (Where's My Stuff???!!!)
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To: rexgrossmansonlyfan

“Maybe it’s the holiday and maybe it was because I was up late but anyone else have a slight glimmer of hope this may not be as horrible as we thought?”

He’ll be center right on Foreign Policy and Center left on Domestic. On the Domestic side he will have plenty of opportunity and bones to throw to the moonbats to shut them up if he plays it right.

As for me, I’m not holding my breath on anything coming out of the Barry Administration.


39 posted on 11/27/2008 8:12:49 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: headstamp 2

I should also say that we have to see what Congress does.


40 posted on 11/27/2008 8:15:22 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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