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Clinton Sec. of State appointment violates Constitution
America's Independent Party ^ | November 25, 2008 | Daniel McClain

Posted on 11/25/2008 3:13:00 PM PST by Steve Schulin

Article 1 Section 6 Part 2 of the U.S. Constitution says:

No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time: and no person holding any office under the United States, shall be a member of either House during his continuance in office.

Since the Senate raised the compensation of Sec of State in January this prevents Hillary Clinton from constitutionally accepting the post.

Personally, however, I feel that this is being thrown out in the media to divert from the real issue of Obama's lack of natural born citizenship. Futhermore, does anyone else feel that this whole Office of the President elect stuff is going way overboard. He gives these presidential news conferences like he is already in power.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 110th; bho2008; clinton; constitution; hillary; obama; obamatransitionfile; oops; sos
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1 posted on 11/25/2008 3:13:00 PM PST by Steve Schulin
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To: Steve Schulin
the Constitution?

2 posted on 11/25/2008 3:15:52 PM PST by ari-freedom (No more candidates from 2008!)
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To: Steve Schulin

I thought Bambi was a Constitutional Law Professor, how can he mess this up?


3 posted on 11/25/2008 3:16:04 PM PST by mortal19440
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“He gives these presidential news conferences like he is already in power.”

Yeah, it’s a bit much. But Obama’s ambitious, you know. He can’t take it easy while the people are weeping.

So long as he doesn’t go overseas and start cutting deals, I’m okay with it.


4 posted on 11/25/2008 3:16:15 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Steve Schulin

After she gets approved by the Senate she will resign from the Senate and then be sworn in. No conflict there at all.


5 posted on 11/25/2008 3:16:31 PM PST by PeterFinn (Joe Biden for President)
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To: Steve Schulin

I’m not sure what your issue is here.

She can resign her Senate post as she accepts the new one.


6 posted on 11/25/2008 3:16:33 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Obama is bringing in every crook and bumbler he can to assure consistency in his message.)
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To: mortal19440

“I thought Bambi was a Constitutional Law Professor, how can he mess this up?”

Maybe because they spend all their time on penumbras, the Hague, and Scottish common law in law school these days.


7 posted on 11/25/2008 3:17:16 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Steve Schulin

So does this mean that no Congress-person can take a cabinet position if the pay was increased while they served? That would get in the way of several appointments I think.


8 posted on 11/25/2008 3:17:18 PM PST by TheNewPundit
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To: Steve Schulin

definition of emolument:

Compensation received by virtue of holding an office or having employment (usually in the form of wages or fees)


9 posted on 11/25/2008 3:17:56 PM PST by Signalman
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To: ConservativeMind

The phrase “during the time for which he was elected” seems to preclude that.


10 posted on 11/25/2008 3:19:11 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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So this is saying that a Senator can't vote to raise the pay for an office, and then take that office until their term is expired?

If so, then Clinton would not be eligible until her normal term is over, and resigning mid-term is not good enough?

-PJ

11 posted on 11/25/2008 3:21:53 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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When you resign, you are no longer “elected.”

When you quit your job, are you still working there?


12 posted on 11/25/2008 3:22:53 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Obama is bringing in every crook and bumbler he can to assure consistency in his message.)
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You're not being "nuanced" enough. It says "during the time for which HE was elected".

The O is so much smarter than you....give up.

13 posted on 11/25/2008 3:24:08 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (By Obama's own reckoning, isn't Lyndon LaRouche more qualified? He's run since the 70's)
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So this is saying that a Senator can't vote to raise the pay for an office, and then take that office until their term is expired?

Except that this particular pay raise was an executive order from President Bush. There was no vote.

14 posted on 11/25/2008 3:24:51 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Steve Schulin

REALLY??? ARTICLE 2 of that PESKY ole CONSTITUTION because .... THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT ...

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


15 posted on 11/25/2008 3:25:07 PM PST by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: ConservativeMind

No, but if I had a 6 year contract, I’d be quitting before the time for which I was hired.


16 posted on 11/25/2008 3:26:48 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: PeterFinn
After she gets approved by the Senate she will resign from the Senate and then be sworn in. No conflict there at all.

That's right and things like this have been going on since the beginning.

In the old days, Senators like Webster, Clay, and Calhoun left Congress to enter the cabinet and got their jobs back at the next elections after they left the cabinet. State legislatures chose Senators in those days and so long as legislators kept their seats, they'd be loyal to their state's "big man."

17 posted on 11/25/2008 3:27:30 PM PST by x
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To: Bobkk47

So, , , let her resign and then he can appoint her. OR BETTER YET, let her resign and he can go on to someone else. Yeah!

Excuse me, I have been spending too much time on the doom and gloom forums.


18 posted on 11/25/2008 3:27:40 PM PST by Tomato lover (How happy would our world be if men either knew more or practically knew how little they know.)
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I thought emolument was like hand lotion or lanolin. Stuff that softens your skin, y’know?


19 posted on 11/25/2008 3:27:48 PM PST by CholeraJoe ("This is a good day to kill some savages." Suetonius 60AD)
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To: Steve Schulin

I don’t think this argument holds water.

The appointment is not completed until the Senate advises and consents. And the advise and consent of the Senate will not be granted without the resignation being complete before she assumes the office.

Hussein will give Constitutionalists plenty to bitch about in the next four years, but this isn’t one of those instances, imntbho.


20 posted on 11/25/2008 3:28:16 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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