[Mad-Margaret]

And let’s not forget that he shot the dog too. I was just thinking of that poor boy a couple of days ago and the horror of seeing your dog shot on your own property.

[skeeter]

I think the guy who shot the dog (and the boy, in the back) was shot by Kevin Harris on the first day.

[El Gato]

And let’s not forget that he shot the dog too

Neither the boy nor his dog where shot by Horiuchi. That was federal marshals. The FBI wasn't even on scene yet. Of course like Waco, Ruby Ridge was really a BATF op. At RR they lied to the Marshals service about Weaver, saying he was a dangerous bank robber. At Waco their "appropriations time"/Showtime raid went horribly wrong and then teh FBI was brought in.

Eric Holder, Obama's pick for Attorney General, was Jack Boot Janet, "Gas 'em and Burn 'em", Reno's deputy AG. Although not at the time of the Waco debacle.

BOHICA or BLOAT. You decide.

[ExSoldier]

And let’s not forget that he shot the dog too. I was just thinking of that poor boy a couple of days ago and the horror of seeing your dog shot on your own property.

Okay, to be fair: Horiuchi didn't shoot the dog. At the initial contact between US Marshals going to serve their failure to appear warrant, the kid was out with the father and a friend of his .... AND the dog was with them. The dog sensed the presence of the intruders and started to give the alarm when he was shot thru the HIPS by an agent. Any idea how agonizing a bullet thru the hips is going to be for a pup? Somebody does that to my pups and I'm going to plug him thru both elbows and both kneecaps and let him compare. The kid saw the dog get hit and was shot in the back as he tried to flee to his dad. Yup, those lawmen were proud examples of those who wear the silver badge.

I wonder how the Texas Rangers from the good old days would react to our government today? One rogue government, one ranger?

Horiuchi and the other snipers arrived later when the siege was underway. Horiuchi also showed up at Waco as a technical advisor but it's unclear as to whether he squeezed any triggers there. BTW, Delta force was also at Waco, filling a similar role. Can anybody say posse commitatus?

[blackbart.223]

"And let’s not forget that he shot the dog too."

The dog was shot by a US Marshall. The ensuing gun fight resulted in Sammy Weaver being killed(shot in the back) and US Marshall Billy Degan being killed. Horiuchi was part of the FBI "Hostage Rescue Team". Horiuchi shot Vicki Weaver while holding a baby.