Posted on 11/25/2008 6:10:27 AM PST by Ethan Clive Osgoode
OK, educate me. How old are the Rockies and what is the rate of erosion?
I don’t need a counter argument in order to recognize a flawed one.
Reading really IS fundamental.
Can you produce a science text showing us where "XENU" was taught in science class before the cult of evolution took hold and demanded prayer and God or anything like God including creation etc., got booted from the disasters that are today public schools?
Maybe you can take a stab at explaining what the chemist said that was particularly "religious"?
So far the one and only time one of you cultists did so, he shrugged it off and got huffy and left.
Like prop 8.Like Michael Newdow demanding IGWT be removed from coins, like mangers removed from poublic,Christmas trees removed from schools, 10 commandments removed from courthouses, etc. etc. etc.
I see that we’ve tweaked a sore spot by pointing out that your side of the argument is “running to mama” in order to get your way.
No!
The link between creationism and elections is only big when it’s big and it’s not big when it’s not big. Right!
So when you are talking to a fellow evolutionist it’s BIG.
“No vast amounts of time are spent by your average evolutionary biologist on the hypothetical origins of life.”
Then your “below average” evolutionary biologist must be gumming up the works with talk of abiogenesis. Because anybody that has been awake has heard of primordial soup and the like as if it is a big deal. Or did those highly imaginative christians come up with that one too.
I’m seeing a pattern here. So abiogenesis is big when it’s big and not big when it’s not big.
I take it back you are consistent.
Yup, for such a small deal they expend an enormous amount of money and time and energy in courts to stomp anything remotely God/religious/far right fundmentalist out of the public don’t they?
When you get what you “know” about biology from creationists it is no wonder that you are confused about basic details like the origins of life not being covered by evolutionary theory.
I have long maintained that the reason most creationists charlatans don't spend any time attacking abiogenesis because most creationists who they are selling their books to don't know what it is, don't want to know what it is, and think it is indistinguishable from biological evolution anyway. Thanks for the confirmation.
If you go to PubMed and search “evolution” you will find 231,356 hits. Search “abiogenesis” and you will find 13 hits. Hardly “gumming up the works”. I guess you don't really know as much about what is going on in biological research as you think.
What chemist?
But it is just as applicable to any issue in which one side refuses to try to convince the majority that they are correct,
and run to the courts to get their position forced on the public without recourse.
It is a tacit admission of the logical weakness of that position.
Actually, in the case of evolution, it's that the evos CAN'T convince the majority that they are correct.
For the decades of teaching evo in public schools, the majority of Americans still believe in either creation or some form of ID. The number that hold the hardline evo position that is advocated on FR is relatively small, much to the evoatheist's chagrin.
Therefore, since they are incapable of progressing on their own merit, they use the heavy hand of the government to enforce compliance to their wishes.
You don’t like having your arguments held up to critical examination, do you?
FOTFL.
Do they believe that Cretionism/ID is science?
Einstein’s equations and theories get proved by observaton of actual physics occurring in laboratories.
I don’t agree with these definitions at all.
And how is that different than all the pictures that evos post about creationists?
Evos are in no position to point fingers about pictures, because the same could be said of them.
Do you want to be treated as an individual, or part of a collective?
>> For the decades of teaching evo in public schools, the majority of Americans still believe in either creation or some form of ID.
What are you basing this on?
OF COURSE! You know MrB, kinda like they don't need to explain why ID theory is held to ridiculous standards while abiogenesis theory (or whatever the language is today) gets off scott free!OR how atheists just get their morals from...well themselves...while they demand the 10 commandments be removed from the public, etc. etc. etc.
They aren’t used to ridicule being used against them, but we need to learn to use it better -
Satan cannot abide scorn.
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