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To: Pelham

You should read the entire thread.

I don’t believe these two idiots deserver a ‘pardon’.

I’m all for a commutation of the excessive sentence.


94 posted on 12/01/2008 10:45:24 AM PST by Badeye (If he's a Messiah, how come his brother lives in a mud hut?)
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To: Badeye; Pelham; CAluvdubya
You should read the entire thread.

You mean where you repeatedly claimed they lied, hence should not be LEOs but could not come up with a single fact to back up your claim, instead alleging that anyone who questioned you was not informed? Class act there! (NOT) Only when I badgered you did admit "perhaps 'lied' was too strong." Here's an enlightenment for ya: YOU lied, by repeatedly making untrue claims.

I don’t believe these two idiots deserver a ‘pardon’. I’m all for a commutation of the excessive sentence.

What do you think the criteria should be to "deserve" a pardon? So far, it appears that you do not object to pardons for drug dealers.

95 posted on 12/01/2008 11:11:07 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Badeye

Badlie, you’ve been exposed making accusations you can’t back up.

The last time I sat on a jury the judge’s instructions included the rule that we could throw out the testimony of a witness who gets caught lying. So using that rule I couldn’t care less what you think Ramos and Compean “deserve”.


99 posted on 12/01/2008 3:45:17 PM PST by Pelham (Obama: Reconstruction version 2.0)
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To: Badeye; calcowgirl
I don’t believe these two idiots deserver a ‘pardon’.

What exactly is "idiotic" about attempting to enforce the law? Is it "idiotic" to pursue a fleeing suspect? Is it idiotic when upon encountering the following events:

A fleeing suspect who directly runs at a shotgun equipped officer and ignores commands to stop;
hearing shots fired out of sight;
seeing your fellow officer not upright upon clearing the levee which obstructed the view of the shots and shooter(s);
and finally observing the fleeing suspect reach back towards you with a weapon apparently in his hand? All of these things occurring in seconds.
Is it idiotic to then shoot at the suspect? To believe that that action is idiotic is to accuse Ramos of leaving his lunch to pursue someone in a vehicle chase, decide to cross a smelly and offensive ditch full of "sewer" water; scamper across the ditch and over a levee to take a long shot at a fleeing suspect and hope that no one noticed when he knows that many people were immediately behind him up to the ditch. IOW they could hear his shot. He heard the other shots while in the ditch. It is idiotic to believe that scenario rather than the more believable one which Ramos testified to. He thought he saw the suspect reach back in a threatening gesture after hearing unseen shots. Davila was the idiot. He got shot in the butt. But unfortunately he convinced several other idiots to convict Ramos and Compean.
133 posted on 12/02/2008 4:45:24 PM PST by AndrewC
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