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To: mondoreb

and in the story, someone said that Thanksgiving is a myth.

I have a copy of Gov. William Bradford’s “Bradford’s History” published, after many decades of searching for his manuscript, in the late 1800’s. (It continues in reprints as “Of Plymouth Plantation.”

Gov. Bradford gave an account of the first Thanksgiving, and of their 90 Indian guests - and their 3 days of feasting and playing games together.

He was there. I’ll take his word for it.

The ‘myth’ that still irritates me is the black and white dress that they mistakingly still attribute to the Pilgrims. (It was the straight laced Bay Colony, of Boston, Puritans who dressed in black and white. They were a bitchy bunch - the beginning of the liberals in the new world.)

The Pilgrims loved colors and dyed their cloths with reds, greens, blues, oranges, yellows - indeed, their spiritual leader, Elder William Brewster’s favorite pieces were his red velvet cape and his green ‘breeches’.

The original Plymouth Pilgrims made fast friends with the local Indians. They never stole land from them but always paid for it. They had a mutual 50/50 treaty with them that included mutual aid against their common enemies, the Indians to the south = including the Pawtuxets. (Their battles with the latter was nothing to do with ‘racist’ but to do with a warring enemy.)

Good thing I wasn’t at the meeting for I would have suggested that before anyone opined about the whats and what nots of the Pilgrims take a bit of time and read what the Pilgrims wrote = and what their contemporaries wrote about them. Otherwise, go suck a clam.


10 posted on 11/24/2008 10:57:36 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
It was the straight laced Bay Colony, of Boston, Puritans who dressed in black and white. They were a bitchy bunch - the beginning of the liberals in the new world.

Funny you should mention that. Robert McNeil (in The English Language) and others who have written about these sociopathic misanthropes and their English antecedents, many of whom are still there in East Anglia (Norfolk, Suffolk) and who continue to exhibit the common characteristics of glum, judgmental, prescriptive, bossy, antisocial nosy parkers and know-it-alls that, unleashed in the New World, have made Massachusetts the living curse of the City on a Hill that the Pilgrims and the Jamestown Colony founded.

19 posted on 11/24/2008 11:20:03 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: maine-iac7

Your excellent post should be required reading. Great work!


33 posted on 11/25/2008 2:38:50 AM PST by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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