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Could Iowa Conservatives Undermine GOP in 2012?
Associated Press ^ | 11/20/08

Posted on 11/24/2008 1:50:19 PM PST by lewisglad

"We've gone so far to the social right, particularly in caucus attendees, that unless you meet certain litmus tests you have a very difficult time competing in Iowa," said Doug Gross, the party's 2002 gubernatorial nominee. "I think you'll have some candidates who won't compete here unless they perceive that's somehow changed."

David Roederer, who headed John McCain's Iowa campaign, agreed.

"I would not encourage a moderate to come right now and participate in the caucuses," Roederer said. "It is a danger for the party, and it is a danger for the future of the caucuses."

Or as conservative state Rep. Christopher Rants put it: "Huckabee won the caucuses, but he couldn't go the distance. Maybe some people will bypass Iowa."

Of course, candidates who meet the standard laid down by social conservatives seem eager to swoop into the state. Later this week, 2008 caucus winner Mike Huckabee will hold events in the state as part of a book tour, and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal has planned appearances a couple of days later.

Both are targeting those social conservatives, a competition that's intensified with the emergence of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Palin was little known in Iowa until last summer, when she was named presidential candidate John McCain's running mate. She drew big crowds at events in several Iowa cities in the last six weeks of the campaign.

"She connected with a lot of people," Roederer said. "The person who has to be the most concerned is Huckabee. He was the only social conservative back then."

In a telephone interview, Huckabee played down speculation that he was starting early in Iowa due to conservative pressure from Palin.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; ia2012
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To: lewisglad

The AP publishes another ant-Palin story.

Whatta shock. /sarc


21 posted on 11/24/2008 2:02:53 PM PST by Bratch
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22 posted on 11/24/2008 2:04:08 PM PST by TitansAFC (Sarah Palin/Mitt Romney 2012!!! Elway, Schwarzenegger, Ditka, Huckabee, and Hoeven for Senate 2010!)
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To: lewisglad

mclame people complaining about conservatives ruining the party???? Bwahahahahaha thats rich.


23 posted on 11/24/2008 2:05:02 PM PST by icwhatudo
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To: JSDude1

Caucuses are too open to manipulation by rich CINOs like Romney. I would much rather see them as closed primaries.


24 posted on 11/24/2008 2:05:48 PM PST by Ingtar (For the first time in my adult life, I am NOT proud of America.)
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To: lewisglad
We just got our butts kicked and our party is talking like it's 2012 already. Sheesh. Meanwhile, back at our Kapitol ...
25 posted on 11/24/2008 2:05:55 PM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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To: lewisglad

“The person who has to be the most concerned is Huckabee. He was the only social conservative back then.”

Pure and utter hogwash. There was Tancredo, Hunter,Brownback,F. Thompson, and so on.

ALL of which are social conservatives, along with being Defense,fiscal,and Constitutionalist conservatives. Huckster wasn’t any of those, though. He sure waved the Bible well, though.Had to, to hide the liberal underpinnings.


26 posted on 11/24/2008 2:07:21 PM PST by Mr Inviso
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To: lewisglad

I find it very interesting that everything you read about the GOP is trying to push it farther left. “They” can call it moderate or left of center but it is still left. Why is it necessary to have both national parties pointing left? Makes socialism easier to swallow by everyone? Is the GOP covertly supporting liberalism and disguising it as a shift to the middle? What is going on? We didn’t have this problem in the past with the GOP being the conservative party. Now “someone” has divided us into 3 factions. Who’s idea was that? I’d really like to know what the devil is going on!!


27 posted on 11/24/2008 2:08:00 PM PST by imfrmdixie
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To: lewisglad
Doug Gross, the party's 2002 gubernatorial nominee

The party's FAILED 2002 gubernatorial nominee... as well as one of the chunks at the top of the IA GOP septic tank who did/does/will not like icky "lunchbox" Republicans.

28 posted on 11/24/2008 2:17:06 PM PST by niteowl77 (America's chickens**ts have come home to roost... in Washington.)
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To: ichabod1

Easy there! I live here again. Iowa was all about Huckabee for the values voters. He was just meant to block Romney from winning, and give cover for McCain. Say what you want, but Romney is way more conservative and a team player than McCain has ever been and would have been a much better candidate. With him at the top, and Palin as VP, I bet they would have won.

To win elections, we need to stress conservative principles in governing and lead by example, and do a little less preaching. I absolutely think our faith should guide us, but campaigning on it turns a lot of moderates off.


29 posted on 11/24/2008 2:21:47 PM PST by GeorgeWBiscuit
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To: JSDude1
How about we switch all Republican contests to caucuses and make them “closed” that way we can eliminate all RINOS.

Or how about just rename the Republican Party the Christian Conservative Party?

That's what you want, right?

At least be honest.

30 posted on 11/24/2008 2:26:28 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: lewisglad

How about the first GOP caucus or primary be a state the GOP carried in 2008. Not Iowa, not New Hampshire, but South Carolina..............


31 posted on 11/24/2008 2:27:45 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Million Minuteman March (Spring 2009))
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To: Ingtar
"Caucuses are too open to manipulation by rich CINOs like Romney. I would much rather see them as closed primaries."

Fine, as long as the party pays the expenses. But if the primary is going to use taxpayer-funded resources without recompense by the party, then the primary should be open.

32 posted on 11/24/2008 2:28:18 PM PST by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: lewisglad

Oh, by all means, take the advice of McCrazy’s campaign guy.

I can’t get the image of Huckabee banging away on his bass guitar, looking like a complete dork. Only democrats can get away with that!


33 posted on 11/24/2008 2:29:34 PM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: lewisglad

Another “Republicans are too conservative” story. We heard the same thing this entire election, we got a candidate that was not conservative, and what happened? I want the most conservative candidate possible, and one that will clearly communicate his ideas and positions, and will fight as hard as possible to win.


34 posted on 11/24/2008 2:32:22 PM PST by RebelViking
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To: KeyLargo

Yes, I would have to agree with your take on this. Iowa is a lost cause for conservatives at this point. It’s a solid blue state. I hope things change there, but I don’t see that happening any time soon.


35 posted on 11/24/2008 2:33:44 PM PST by GBA
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To: lewisglad

farm subsidies is the real problem. you can’t be a fiscal conservative and expect to win Iowa.


36 posted on 11/24/2008 2:34:16 PM PST by ari-freedom (So this is how Liberty dies... with thunderous applause)
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To: Nonperson

“Dump the caucuses!”

No, dump the RINO’s.....


37 posted on 11/24/2008 2:34:56 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I can't wait for January 20, 2013")
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To: lewisglad

I want Conservative Republicans, not RINO turds. And if all we can be is Dem. lite then the effort is wasted.
Real conservative party or a different party.


38 posted on 11/24/2008 2:35:00 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: lewisglad
I want to know what the heck a social conservative is, gosh dang it. I'm pro-life, pro-school prayer, pro-second amendment. I believe in God. I also don't have a problem with adults engaging in consensual activities. So am I a social conservative or not?
39 posted on 11/24/2008 2:36:13 PM PST by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: lewisglad; Corin Stormhands
"I would not encourage a moderate to come right now and participate in the caucuses," Roederer said. "It is a danger for the party, and it is a danger for the future of the caucuses."

Thank God!


40 posted on 11/24/2008 2:37:20 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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