[cookcounty]

MrB: "they always define “moral behavior” in accordance with their own actual behavior choices. So, by self-definition, they are “moral” people.

Gunrunner: "True for believers as well."

I don't think so. I know lots and lots of Christians who quickly admit to moral failure. It's rare to find agnostics or atheists who admit they fall far short of their own moral standards. As for "disagreements"....even the self-proclaimed christians who favor allowing abortion are very quick to tell you they are "personally opposed" to it.

[GunRunner]

I don't think so. I know lots and lots of Christians who quickly admit to moral failure.

I wasn't addressing the topic of admission of moral failure, only that a believer's morals are likely tuned to whatever their "personal" god's morals are, which differ from person to person.

[GraniteStateConservative]

I don't think so. I know lots and lots of Christians who quickly admit to moral failure. It's rare to find agnostics or atheists who admit they fall far short of their own moral standards.

Christian leaders rarely do, and they wait until it's no longer a secret to admit to it. And I have known lots and lots of self-righteous Christians who don't admit any moral failure whatsoever, but they sure like to preach to others.