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To: Candor7; Beckwith; LucyT; Fred Nerks; All

From my memory,

Several researches have exhausted every public source of filing in Hawaii and find no marriage certificate, witnesses, or notices.

From a quote I saved:

“Ann filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964, citing “grievous mental suffering”—the reason given in most divorces at the time. Obama Sr. signed for the papers in Cambridge, Mass., and did not contest the divorce.”

It could be from the Chicago Tribune (perhaps July )

From my memory: The supposition was that she and BHO left for Kenya over winter break. So if the marriage date of February ‘61 was correct, it must have been over there.

Has any witness come forward that places Ann in Hawaii from the time period of January 1961- August 8 1961. She had dropped out of school from University of Hawaii for Spring semester correct?


163 posted on 11/17/2008 6:26:51 PM PST by Gemsbok (Follow the trail,...,.,.,.,..... I know where it leads)
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To: Gemsbok; Chief Engineer

Chief has the best time line I’ve seen so far. He may be able to help you.


165 posted on 11/17/2008 6:47:01 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Gemsbok; Chief Engineer
Has any witness come forward that places Ann in Hawaii from the time period of January 1961- August 8 1961. She had dropped out of school from University of Hawaii for Spring semester correct?

can you please reply to this question, Chief?

166 posted on 11/17/2008 6:53:01 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Gemsbok

might be useful:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html


167 posted on 11/17/2008 7:03:11 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Gemsbok; Candor7; Beckwith; LucyT; Fred Nerks; All
It could be from the Chicago Tribune (perhaps July )

Several researches have exhausted every public source of filing in Hawaii and find no marriage certificate, witnesses, or notices.

From a quote I saved:

“Ann filed for divorce in Honolulu in January 1964, citing “grievous mental suffering”—the reason given in most divorces at the time. Obama Sr. signed for the papers in Cambridge, Mass., and did not contest the divorce.”

That was in this 7 page Time Mag article in April:

"The Story of Barack Obama's Mother"

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-1,00.html

171 posted on 11/17/2008 8:46:16 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Gemsbok; LucyT
Thanks Gem!

I was trying to place the context of your question, " why file for divorce," when in fact I also thought there had been no marriage and no divorce.

Obama Sr. never married any of his women did he?This allowed him to have multiple wives and to travel about smoothly, without much of a problem caused by potential domestic disputes.

Anne also may have been pregnant by someone else, not Obama Senior. He may have got her on the rebound after she had become pregnant. I do not thnk Obama looks at all like his putative dad, Obama Sr, and his skin tone appears to be too light to have been fathered by Obama Sr., who was a full blooded Luo.It is therefore my guess that Anne was impregnated by eithr Frank Davis Jr or Malcolm X.And then Obama Sr. would have shcked up with her in Hawaii, and then later discovered that she had been impregnated by another man besides himself. That would explain the breakup , and her necessity to seek shelter in Kenya, too ashamed and stubborn to seek help from her parents.

She went to Kenya hoping that Obama Sr. would take her back or that his family would take care of her. This did not happen and she decided to run home to her parents. By then it was too late. She was too near term, and the airlines refused to allow her to board.

Anne then gave birth to Obama in Kenya. Anne got around. We know she was fascinated and very erotically attracted to black men, probably because her first sexual experiences were with Frank Davis Sr at a very young age, 15 or 16. Davis describes the seduction of an " Ann" in his pornographic book, a young girl of 15 or 16.Also Anne's nude photos viewable on the web were likely taken at Davis's apartment in Chicago.

I think that is how this whole scenario evolved. Obama was not likely born in the USA, and cannot satisfy the constitutional requirement of US birth in order to become president. However an argument for US birth can be made saying that the State of Hawaii determined that he was born in the USA by virtue of allowing him to register his Kenyan Birth , as if it were a birth that had occured in Hawaii. That would be claiming that the State of Hawaii Laws on Birth registration determine that judicial fact as such, so the defacto birth should be ignored. State law regulates birth law, not federal law,or so the argument would go in court on behalf of Obama.

This is how it comes together in my mind, altogether, in terms of a flow of events, and anticipated legal argument should Obama be exposed.

186 posted on 11/17/2008 10:49:56 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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