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Pres. Candidate Alan Keyes, AIP leaders [Markham Robinson] Sue Obtain Obama Citizenship Proof
Post Chronicle ^ | Nov 17, 2008

Posted on 11/17/2008 12:45:33 PM PST by Red Steel

Presidential candidate

Alan Keyes, vice-presidential candidate Wiley S. Drake, and the Chairman of the American Independent Party, Markham Robinson, have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento seeking to bar Secretary of State Debra Bowen from certifying to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger the names of Electors, and from transmitting to each presidential Elector a Certificate of Election, until documentary proof is produced and verified showing that Senator Obama is a "natural born" citizen of the United States, and does not hold citizenship of Indonesia, Kenya or Great Britain.

In addition, they have asked that the court issue a peremptory writ barring Senator Obama's California Electors from signing the Certificate of Vote until such documentary proof is produced and verified.

In response to questions about why the suit was being filed, Ambassador Keyes commented, "I and others are concerned that this issue be properly investigated and decided before Senator Obama takes office. Otherwise there will be a serious doubt as to the legitimacy of his tenure. This doubt would also affect the respect people have for the Constitution as the supreme law of the land. I hope the issue can be quickly clarified so that the new President can take office under no shadow of doubt. This will be good for him and for the nation."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; bc; birthcertificate; birthcertificategate; certifigate; keyes; lawsuit; obama; obamafamily; obamatruthfile; whenobamaspeakstruth; whenwillthisdie
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To: Red Steel
As to the personal reasons why Alan Keyes might have for wanting this resolved, those are his. However, if there are no improprieties here, then there NO reason under the sun why the Birth Certificate (the real one)cannot be shown.

Anyone can tell a lie all day long if no one forces them to show the proof.

If everything is on the up-and-up, then there is no reason to hide it. You would think obama would show it, just to put egg on all the faces that are demanding it.

I smell a demoRAT.
21 posted on 11/17/2008 1:11:58 PM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: seanrobins

I believe you’re the DOPE, for thinking the Constitution doesn’t matter!


22 posted on 11/17/2008 1:12:18 PM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: marshmallow

Was he born with the name Barack Hussein Obama II? I don’t think that would be his name on a 1961 Birth Certificate.


23 posted on 11/17/2008 1:12:23 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: Free America52

Can someone then tell us WHAT the facts are, and WHAT the sources for those facts are?

The only thing the “tin-foil hats” keep screaming are thei conclusions.

How about some of those facts, and the evidence for them. And please, lets not cite more bloggers.

This is all just so embarassing. Don’t we have better bases for opposing Bambi?


24 posted on 11/17/2008 1:13:03 PM PST by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: seanrobins
That puts up a huge red flag.
25 posted on 11/17/2008 1:14:13 PM PST by wastedyears (Every FReeper is on Obama's Black List. He will try to have us all "taken care of." Mark my words)
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To: Free America52

Welcome to FR to you too.


26 posted on 11/17/2008 1:14:37 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

I didn’t say or imply that, and you know it. (Can we TRY and leave the dishonest arguments to the Dims?)

My critique is of the argument (not that Obama needs to be a citizen to be president) - but the raging kookiness behind the continuing fight to prove that he’s not.

I disagree with the those wearing the tin-foils hats, NOT with the Constitution. The two are not the same thing.


27 posted on 11/17/2008 1:15:58 PM PST by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: Red Steel

I have always liked Alan Keyes. He should have stuck to being a commentator rather than getting into politics, because he just doesn’t seem to have any political instincts. Some people might think that’s good—but you need to get elected before you can accomplish anything, and Keyes has an unfortunate way of turning off his friends and allies and offending the voters. He just can’t put a team together and get along with the people he needs to get along with.

But his ideas are certainly good.


28 posted on 11/17/2008 1:16:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: FrankR
I smell a demoRAT.

These particular threads bring them out of hiding.

29 posted on 11/17/2008 1:17:02 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: wastedyears

You mean, the first name “Stanley”? Why? It is what it is. So what? Her first name was Stanley, and she went by Ann. Stanley was a family name - I forget which relative... unusual, but not unheard of.

If the “red flag” is that this is a fact with which you are unfamiliar, then...oh, well.... I don’t think a court would care too much about that.


30 posted on 11/17/2008 1:18:21 PM PST by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: wastedyears
"Keyes I would trust when it comes to the Constitution."

Keyes careens along at about 2400 psi, which made him an awful candidate. He won't lose for lack of energy, and he definitely DOES know the constitution.

31 posted on 11/17/2008 1:19:27 PM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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To: seanrobins

Where is the embossed seal? And wouldn’t he be a JR not a II?


32 posted on 11/17/2008 1:19:37 PM PST by Caribou
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To: seanrobins

Well, the big fact staring us in the face is that the birth certificate has gone on for months, there are numerous reasons, if not rising to absolute proofs, to think that Obama may not be an American citizen, and yet he has refused to cough up decent evidence.

Nor has he provided any other basic records: health records, academic records, college thesis, or anything else.

Also, he has a pretty good record of lying about his past.

So, why is it so unreasonable to demand proof that he is qualified to be president? It was demanded of mcCain, and he provided his birth certificate immediately. Obama refuses. A poor and dubious copy posted on the net is NOT proof of anything.


33 posted on 11/17/2008 1:20:10 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Red Steel

Keyes let himself be used as a tool to elect Obama in the first place. Oh irony every day you crop up.


34 posted on 11/17/2008 1:20:30 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Edgar3
Wiley Drake needs to go back home to Buena Park, Calif., and pastor his church, that has not grown in over 50 years.
35 posted on 11/17/2008 1:21:35 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ("There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological Narcissist as president.")
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To: Red Steel

its a shame, but its wasting time and energy on nonesense like this, rather than trying to regain conservative control over the GOP, that has gotten us where we are today.

The election’s over already....

We need to start “debrieding” the RINO’s and the so0called “centrists” and “moderates” from the party, and refocus on real conservatism, for the first time in eight or twn years. That’s the way to beat Bambi.

Not putting on those shiney metallic hats.


36 posted on 11/17/2008 1:21:43 PM PST by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

“Keyes does have a bone to pick with Obama”

Yes, he does. But he is patriot first. He puts our country first ahead of everything else.


37 posted on 11/17/2008 1:22:14 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Caribou
Where is the embossed seal? And wouldn’t he be a JR not a II?

In Hawaii, both the seal and registrar's signature are on the back of the document.

38 posted on 11/17/2008 1:22:42 PM PST by marshmallow (USA: Bailout Nation)
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To: Caribou

That’s not my scan. I’m not part of the “investigative team” scouring the coutryside for documentary evidence concerning this or that COLB, and on and on....

You can do that.....

thanks.


39 posted on 11/17/2008 1:23:01 PM PST by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: seanrobins
I disagree with the those wearing the tin-foils hats, NOT with the Constitution. The two are not the same thing

The document shown in the post above has been proven fake. This can all be cleared in an instant, but instead of doing so, Obama has lawered up and fought it at every turn. Why?

Where are his IL senate records, his transcripts and other college records? I wouldn't hire an accountant who couldn't prove he was qualified, why shouldn't the same standard apply here?

40 posted on 11/17/2008 1:23:50 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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