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The Emerging Majority ( Democrats might be in control for a very long time )
Weekly Standard ^ | Nov 17,2008 | Matthew Continetti

Posted on 11/16/2008 8:38:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: etradervic

That is what I don’t understand. The evidence of failed socialism and communism is right there in front of us. But we are too busy with American Idol, iTunes, x-Box, the Superbowl - the bread and circuses of our day - to see.


41 posted on 11/16/2008 11:21:19 AM PST by informavoracious (It's after midnight, I'm FReepwalking...)
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To: timestax

Even if they aren’t happy we will have nothing but mock ‘elections’!! That is their legacy in handing this election to these thugs. They have murdered the United States of America and ‘Democrats’(the irony of the name!) are going to be steering us straight on to third world status and a good whipping at the hands of the Soviet-ChiCom-terrorist alliance! The world will certainly feel the effects of this as well.


42 posted on 11/16/2008 11:34:23 AM PST by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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To: Spok

Don’t forget the right to vote given to murderers, child molesters, thieves and every other criminal available to add to the Demonrat machine! You hit the nail on the head why this election is so fatal. These people are the enemy of this country and have control now and God help us!


43 posted on 11/16/2008 11:37:30 AM PST by bushfamfan (United States of America: July 4, 1776-November 4, 2008)
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To: NVDave

Your analysis is great! I especially love “ the GOP should craft tax policy to give the ultra-rich exactly what they want: higher taxes. The GOP should go after the ultra-wealthy with a fury, because these people are also funding the DNC”

I came to a similar conclusion. How about all entertainers including professional sports stars? I would like to add ex presidents and congressman but no way would they go for that.

My favorite FNC show is Cavuto, and he has been preaching that the combination of low interest rates and huge deficit spending the past ~7 years makes the idea that these massive borrowing stimulus bailout bills are not going to help and may make things worse, But politically no one wants to be accused of doing nothing.

I think we need to start calling the non-partison Ross Perot alarm on the deficit, ala 1992. And no circling the wagons around GWB legacy. He has led our party off a cliff. Eventually we drop the non-partison stuff and ask why democrats are following GWB when they promised the opposite. Remember 1992 debate a woman asked Bush SR how the deficit was affecting him personally? Lets setoff deficit mania again(and not a moment too soon!). Its our best bet to headoff BoB’s plans to put 60% of voters on welfare.


44 posted on 11/16/2008 12:24:58 PM PST by sickoflibs (Mr President (GWB), Please go, you have done enough!)
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To: informavoracious
It really is a matter of ignorance. Democrat voters have not made the connection that the Obama and Pelosi are socialists. They are not sufficiently well-informed to be able to make the distinction.

The press does not report because it is partisan.
The schools do not teach because they are partisan.
The GOP does not emphasize this because they do not want to offend anyone who may have wandered into their "big tent."
45 posted on 11/16/2008 12:30:19 PM PST by etradervic (The Dems didn't win as much as the GOP was defeated)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Probably not-they are about to throw millions of Mid Westerners out of work-yes I mean the planned filibuster of the Auto industry bailout. Who is left to vote for the GOP for president? No votes in California or the entire North East, Western states are trending Democratic and the GOP is about to destroy any chance they had in the Mid West.


46 posted on 11/16/2008 12:41:20 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: yazoo

Things are not nearly as bad yet...The market crashed in 29. It took a couple of years for the depression to begin.


47 posted on 11/16/2008 12:44:34 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: informavoracious
The evidence of failed socialism and communism is right there in front of us. But we are too busy with American Idol, iTunes, x-Box, the Superbowl - the bread and circuses of our day - to see.

I think it is because they think there is some perfect balance and we just have to achieve it. You know, a third way...It's misguided but it's what i believe, those that actually do think, think.

48 posted on 11/16/2008 12:48:26 PM PST by riri
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve seen these articles and books making the case for both sides for a long time.


49 posted on 11/16/2008 12:49:39 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: kabar

“Census data for 2006 show a population of 8,856,505 with blacks comprising 1,892,469 of the population and Hispanics of all races amounting to 597,382. Basically, of the 2.2 million increase in population from 1990 to 2006, about 1 million came from blacks and Hispanics, which now make up about 28% of the population. “

Holy smokes that is a huge difference.

“Minorities and immigrants vote overwhelmingly Dem. Demography is destiny.” This was true in the past 30 years, but it didnt stop the Reagan elections or the elections of the GOP. In fact, we are electorally in a very similar situation that we were in in 1992.

Someone did a study and it showed that Bush in 1988 got the same ratio from different ethnic groups as McCain v Obama. The difference was the large increases in the hispanic and immigrant populations that shifted the ratios of voter from a 54% to 46% win for the GOP to a 7 point win for the Democrats.

“Buy 2023, half of all children 18 and under will be minorities and by 2042, half of the country will be minorities.”
- This is a reality we have to deal with.

What can I say, my wife is an immigrant and my kids are nonwhite.

“Minorities and immigrants vote overwhelmingly Dem. Demography is destiny.” - This can be changed and challenged, but it will take hard work. The GOP is the party of equal opportunity, and we will need to go to the minority groups and urban areas and fight for the GOP values and agenda.


50 posted on 11/16/2008 12:50:29 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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To: Maine Mariner

Where will the jobs come from in the future? We don’t make things (TV’s appliances soon no cars) anymore. Tech CEO’s want H1B visa people to take tech jobs (no American is qualified you understand). Call centers have moved overseas. Wachovia has moved its clerical operation overseas...where will the jobs come from. Do you really believe we can remain a great country while we serve hamburgers to one another? The GOP lost their way when they stopped caring about job creation. I don’t know how they can fix this.


51 posted on 11/16/2008 12:52:31 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: SeekAndFind

Around here the Republicans and the Democrats together add up to a majority. But registered Independents are very common. There might be a majority, barely, of Democrats in office, but they don’t have the majority of registered members of the Party and probably never will.


52 posted on 11/16/2008 12:54:43 PM PST by RightWhale (Exxon Suxx)
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To: etradervic

What the GOP doesn’t understand is that ‘socialism’ is not a bad word for the unemployed. If the GOP had fair trade and had not bled jobs from this country, they would not have lost the election. You can say anything. People without jobs won’t listen. The GOP will be blamed for this recession/depression.

This is not unfair. I think both parties share the blame, but the party that holds the presidency sets the monetary policy. My Grandpa was a big FDR fan. He told me once that ‘everyone knew that FDR cared about the people’. He believed without FDR, millions of Americans would have starved. There was a connection-a trust if you will of FDR. The GOP has lost the trust of the American people. It will be hard to combat this in the short term. Perhaps in the the coming years Repubs can win back the trust of the people.


53 posted on 11/16/2008 1:01:42 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy

UAW workers are primarily Democrat voters anywhere.

If the GOP votes to support the bailout, I think there will be a lot more pissed off conservatives all over the country, than there will be placated union workers.


54 posted on 11/16/2008 1:09:12 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: SeekAndFind

After he puts the economy firmly in the tank let’s see how he does in Loudoun.


55 posted on 11/16/2008 1:22:59 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: timestax

“To put in another way=”These ain’t your daddies type DemonCRAPS. They are In like flint, and they are not going anywhere soon. It’s a whole new ballgame. “

Sad but true. They will ruin the economy but will not take the blame. The ignorant voters that support them will continue to vote for screwing business and for a few handouts.
It will take serious educating of the people to turn it back.


56 posted on 11/16/2008 1:59:29 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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To: stockstrader

“The demographic changes (which started to show in this election) are devastating for the Republican Party in the future.”

IF we insist on ceding the minority vote.
IF NOT, WE CAN COMPETE.


57 posted on 11/16/2008 2:00:23 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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To: bronxboy

“What the GOP doesn’t understand is that ‘socialism’ is not a bad word for the unemployed.”

More importantly, the Dems DO understand that making more people dependent on Govt will “HOOK” them

” If the GOP had fair trade and had not bled jobs from this country, they would not have lost the election.”

Disagree. We created jobs and had unemployment at the remarkable low level of under 5% in 2006 ... and we still lost the Congress. Since then, the Dems have mucked things enough to weaken the economy. That weakening had nothing to do with ‘bled jobs’, when in fact trade has created the best high-paying jobs in the economy. It did have something to do with Democrat threats to raise taxes.

“My Grandpa was a big FDR fan. He told me once that ‘everyone knew that FDR cared about the people’. He believed without FDR, millions of Americans would have starved.”

Your Grandpa was sold a bill of goods.
FDR lengthened the great depression and his policies failed to cure unemployment and haremd the ability of the country to grow:
http://www.parapundit.com/archives/005635.html
It was ironically the Great Depression precisely

The scary thing is that FDR’s PR was better than his economic policies and the Republicans were not able to offer a credible alternative. The fact that your Grandpa and millions like him revered a man whose policies made them poorer is a testament to the dangers of patronage socialist economics.

The GOP will need to be ready with pro-growth policies.


58 posted on 11/16/2008 2:17:08 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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To: nathanbedford
Minorities of color will vote their color.

Really?

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.


59 posted on 11/16/2008 2:18:26 PM PST by rdb3 (Get out the putter. This one's on the green.)
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To: WOSG

Unfinished thought above: It was ironically the Great Depression precisely because FDR made it so with his bad economic policies.

If FDR hadnt been so bad, it would have just been the Hoover Depression, and we would have been back on track by 1933 instead of waiting until WWII to improve.


60 posted on 11/16/2008 2:19:15 PM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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