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The Emerging Majority ( Democrats might be in control for a very long time )
Weekly Standard ^ | Nov 17,2008 | Matthew Continetti

Posted on 11/16/2008 8:38:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: kabar

Yea, you’re right about the GOP. I’ve not seen a dumber bunch of malfeasants in my life. Admittedly, I’m not a octogenarian who can claim to have seen the Depression as a pup, but the GOP’s current bench seems filled with complete dolts, and the problem is that people like you and I would rather be dragged across a cheese grater and then into a puddle of salt water than run for Congress (or anything else, actually).

I don’t think the surge in new migration from Mexico is going to pan out. The vast majority of the money that attracted them in the post-Bush wave was tied to the housing industry in the south/southwest.

That industry is gone, done, fini. I expect to see a couple/three major homebuilders go BK here in the next year, and the change in population in places like Nevada is apparent just by driving around. The jobs for illegals on residential construction sites are gone.

Commercial real estate is next in the chute.


141 posted on 11/17/2008 11:18:25 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

It is far better to be poor in the US than in Mexico and Latin America. And we are building such a large Hispanic population, that is can support a major underground economy. Today, there are no border states when it comes to immigration. Every state has become a border state. for example, in 1990, based on census figures, the Mexican-born population of North Carolina, was 8,751. In 2000, it was 179,236.


142 posted on 11/17/2008 11:31:51 AM PST by kabar
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To: bronxboy
Get a clue. Even my Sonata was built in the U S of A.

Take you "working class hero" sh-t to the Democratic party where it belongs. I should not have to pay for the INCOMPETENCE of the mental midgets of Detroit making stupid decisions.

143 posted on 11/17/2008 3:10:10 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Clemenza

Take your elitist hatred of working people and and shove it. The working class people pay the taxes, vote, support their communities and are indeed heroes. What is the Republican Party to become the party of Southern Regional Party of Snobs? Ronald Reagan, the greatest Republican ever understood the importance of working people and received their votes. This new Republican Party has lost support in most of the country.


144 posted on 11/17/2008 4:11:26 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: Clemenza

Oh, the profits for your sonota did not stay in the US-they went across the ocean home. Thanks for not supporting your country...you schools or you community.


145 posted on 11/17/2008 4:14:33 PM PST by bronxboy
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To: kabar
In 2000, it was 179,236.

Dang, those maps I gave 'em worked.

146 posted on 11/17/2008 4:20:41 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK

As of 2007, Census figures show that there are 638,444 Hispanic/Latinos in North Carolina. In 1990, there were 76,726 Hispanics/Latinos. And yet people are surprised when NC goes for Obama.


147 posted on 11/17/2008 4:27:46 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
 

I have lived a total of nine years in three Islamic countries [Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Indonesia] and travelled to many more. I don't need to go to Jihad Watch to get an education about it.

You should go to Jihad Watch but are a too arrogant know it all when it comes to this religious struggle of Islam against Jews, Islam against Christians, Islam against every other religion

Next thing I know you will be telling me this is really an Arab/Israeli struggle and not a Muslim vs. Jew struggle

Israel will survive long after you and I and our children and grand children. Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons and a first rate military. The only thing that will take them down is the 16% of their own population that are Arab Muslims.

That's your absurd talking point
You don't seriously think that 200 nuclear weapons are a valid defense when the Iranian can pull off a first strike on Tel Aviv via smuggled terrorist nuke

You will be happy with Obama's Mid East policy. All indications are that he will adopt the Saudi plan pushing Israel back to 1967 borders meaning also giving up the high ground of the Golan Heights

148 posted on 11/17/2008 4:32:11 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw
You should go to Jihad Watch but are a too arrogant know it all when it comes to this religious struggle of Islam against Jews, Islam against Christians, Islam against every other religion

Your ignorance is only exceeded by your arrogance. I know firsthand about Islamic fundamentalism having been in Iran during the fall of the Shah and the rise of Khomeini. I left Iran on March 31, 1979. I was shot at for several hours and held hostage for about four more when our Embassy was overrun on Feb 14, 1979. Don't lecture me about Islam.

That's your absurd talking point You don't seriously think that 200 nuclear weapons are a valid defense when the Iranian can pull off a first strike on Tel Aviv via smuggled terrorist nuke

It is if the Iranians know that Israel will consider such an attack as coming from Iran and will retaliate.

You will be happy with Obama's Mid East policy. All indications are that he will adopt the Saudi plan pushing Israel back to 1967 borders meaning also giving up the high ground of the Golan Heights

Actually, there is a far more vigorous debate on such issues within Israel, including giving up the Golan Heights. Any such agreement will require Israel's approval and you can bet that they will do what is in their best interests. The idea that Israel is just a helpless pawn being pushed around by the US is just plain nonsense.

149 posted on 11/17/2008 4:44:52 PM PST by kabar
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To: bronxboy
Ronald Reagan was a supporter of free trade and opposed union socialism (which he saw first hand at the screen actors guild).

"Southern elitists?" Don't you have your stereotypes confused, Fonzie?

Again, there is a party for the working class socialists. It is called the Democrats.

150 posted on 11/17/2008 5:04:02 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: bronxboy

You obviously never studied basic econ, nor do you realize that the flow of dollars/capital is not a zero sum game.


151 posted on 11/17/2008 5:05:07 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: bronxboy
Oh, the profits for your sonota did not stay in the US-they went across the ocean home. Thanks for not supporting your country...you schools or you community.

I like how people only think about whether Americans are being employed.
Where do the profits go when Hyundai, Toyota or Ford make an automobile on US soil?

GM is mostly owned by Americans and American institutions
Toyota by Japanese
Hyundai by Koreans

152 posted on 11/17/2008 5:05:29 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: kabar

If you really knew Islam you would support Israel more instead of being neutral and blasé about the Muslim threat to it. Shot at? The whole world is in Islam’s gun sights. Take a look at Europe and the emerging Muslim majority

I am instantly on the side of anyone under attack by the worldwide Jihad. That includes Hindus, Kashmiris, Thais, Filipinos, Serbs, Israeli Jews and European nations being overwhelmed by Muslim birthrates and immigration. The USA is also under attack by the Jihadists You play a game of neutrality

You play games with the Jews (Israel)
Some probably got on your case in the Middle East.
Some Jews over there got your number and called you on it
Imagine the great Kabar being insulted or hassled by some damn Jew
Same reason the British are such pathetic advocates for Palestinians. It’s because the Jews of Israel drove them out


153 posted on 11/17/2008 6:13:27 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: kabar

Check out my tag line sometime.
I never bet on Islam because I never bet on those stupid enough to follow false prophets

You bet on Islam from time to time
You must actually think that Muslims honor treaties. In the Koran they are told not to

Any treaty Israel signs with Muslims is null and void for the Muslims the day it is signed. Because Jihad is eternal until Islam rules the world. You will learn this at Jihad Watch


154 posted on 11/17/2008 6:21:58 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: kabar

The low oil price means a stronger bargaining position for Israel. Muslim political power rises and falls along with the oil price. Obviously higher oil means greater stranglehold they have on Western Economies and the more Israel gets pressured to give land away to these idiots

Actually Europe has been pressuring Israel less the last few years ever since their internal Muslim populations have been rioting and acting traitorously and with high Muslim crime rates too. Islam is always a bad bet and never a good bargain......
BUT then you already knew that since you lived among the natives. Wogs according to the Brits yeah I know they included Hindus&others too


155 posted on 11/17/2008 6:35:02 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

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156 posted on 11/17/2008 6:36:13 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: Clemenza

***It is by its nature a reactive and dynamic movement, rather than an unchanging one.***

Although things are bleak now, I have no doubt we will come back. For example, the Tories in the UK were wiped out in the 1990’s. Now they are on a revival. So too shall conservativism rise from the grave. The question is what will the definition of conservatism 10 years from now?

I think in the next decade, the GOP will adopt a more European flavor of conservativism. This may allow Giuliani to run for the President in 2012 or 2016. He is expressing interest in the NY Governorship and has not ruled out another run for the White House.


157 posted on 11/17/2008 6:52:21 PM PST by yongin (Converting people to Mormonism makes the world more conservative)
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To: bronxboy

“The market crashed in 29. It took a couple of years for the depression to begin.”

I hope we have learned a few things about how to stop a recession from becoming a depression. I fear Obama will pull and FDR and prolong he misery. The crash of 29 was a symptom, not a cause of the depression.


158 posted on 11/17/2008 8:04:04 PM PST by yazoo
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To: dennisw

You are one sick puppy. This conversation is over.


159 posted on 11/17/2008 9:16:34 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar

You are arrogant and dull. I like arrogance when someone is correct and original. Your arrogance is lazy and dated. The Muslim world has changed in the last 30 years but what do you care? You are a broken record


160 posted on 11/18/2008 3:17:21 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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