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To: Hang'emAll

From a legal point of view, the words “Place of Birth”: “Honolulu”, “County of Birth”: “Honolulu” “Island of Birth”: “Oahu” and “date of birth;” “August 4, 1961” are all that are relevant. Those words appear on the Certification of Live Birth...

Nice try. Look at your own birth certificate it has the name of the hospital and signed by the doctor/midwife.

The original in 1961 would be typewritten and copied on microfiche not a digital media file.


I also have a short form from the state that I was born in and I have no idea where my original birth certificate is. I’ve used the short form certificate for more than 40 years now. It has worked for passports, Social Security and Life Insurance.

At the bottom of Obama’s Certification of Live Birth:
“This copy is prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”


785 posted on 11/15/2008 3:47:23 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

I have applied for a recieved clearances that required the long for Birth Certificate. That is not a long form birth certificate.
Most telling is Obama’s refusal or dismissal to conform with SCOTUS, with the 3rd Circuit court of appeals, or to even address the issue.
Why is the MSM not vetting him, or even reporting the concerns of millions of Americans, its news right? Very strange.
Obama’s Grandmother just died in Hawaii, strange that he is not having or going to a funeral for her, she is just waiting there on ice. Not exactly the way you would treat a person who raised you.
Also, evidence both recorded and visual of his Paternal Grandmother and Half sister that witnessed his birth in Kenya.
As for being Barak Obama II, I have no problem with that, when he was adopter by Lolo Sotero, he had a legal name change to Barry Sotero, and has never relinquished that name or applied for a name change. So any paperwork using Barak Obama is fraud.
Philip Berg has a court case with Chief Justics Souter.
DelFrio has a case with Chief Justice Clarence Thomas.
The DNC chair from California has filed a lawsuit against Obama (Sotero), that will withold 55 delegates until he proves US Natural born citizenship.
Since that time 10 other states have filed suit.
His Fact Check Birth certificate has been proven to be a fake, which is why the two cases have made it to SCOTUS.
DNC chair Howard Dean did not vet Obama correctly and could be implicated in this fraud against the nation.
Bigger fish seem to be pulling the strings.
To be clear, nobody is questioning that he would do a good or bad job as President, nobody is questioning if he is here at the right time or not. Its not a race issue, its a constitutional issue.
If he is lying, he has pulled the wool over 10’s of Millions of citizens of the US.
If he is disqualified. Another person who has qualified to be president can be chosen by the electoral college. Joe Biden ran for Vice-President so could not be chosen. Hilliary lost in the run-off, but did run for President, so could be chosen. McCain and any other person running for President who was Legally vetted in 50 states qualifies and could be chosen.
I hope, for the Nation that Obama is mearly stubborn, and will produce a real Birth Certificate, not that he would be my choice, but because I fear us falling into a civil war as a result of his disqualification. People tend to shoot the messenger, rather than realize that they were hoodwinked.


795 posted on 11/15/2008 4:05:51 PM PST by etraveler13
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To: jamese777
I’ve used the short form certificate for more than 40 years now. It has worked for passports, Social Security and Life Insurance.

So?

When you try to run for POTUS, we'll worry about looking for the long form.

I want to see 0's copy from 1961. As others here have mentioned, FactCheck is a compromised source, and thus unreliable. There is reason to believe he was not born in Hawaii, and his now-confirmed nasty little habit of lying about his past removes any reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

959 posted on 11/15/2008 6:39:11 PM PST by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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To: jamese777
The original in 1961 would be typewritten and copied on microfiche not a digital media file.

For what it is worth, I used to get photostatic copies, now they have been computerized, and information is extracted from a database and printed into new form.

1,048 posted on 11/15/2008 7:24:12 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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