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To: El Gato

“Actually I think the court would require a certified copy, with the raised state seal, of it would be required. The web image would not suffice.”


The raised Seal is visible on the copy of the COLB available at the factcheck.org web site. That along with the sworn affidavit of the Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics, Alvin T. Onaka, whose name is actually on Obama’s short form Certificate should suffice.
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_7.jpg


734 posted on 11/15/2008 2:26:50 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
That along with the sworn affidavit of the Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics, Alvin T. Onaka, whose name is actually on Obama’s short form Certificate should suffice.

And that form was printed out by a computer. First, a lot of info is not on it. Second, a number of people likely have access to that data base and the ability to make changes. We want to see the original long form such as McCain's in post #748. IF the campaign is willing to release the computer form, THEN why not release the long form? That is the question that makes so many think obama is hiding something not just embarrassing, but something damaging. If he is doing it just to give us a hard time, then he is a child, not a president-in-waiting.

792 posted on 11/15/2008 4:02:09 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: jamese777
Alvin T. Onaka, whose name is actually on Obama’s short form Certificate should suffice.

Did Onaka hold that position in 1961???

844 posted on 11/15/2008 5:07:00 PM PST by danamco
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To: jamese777
Also do you know who fact check really is???

Or, like clinton said, it depends on what is IS!!!

846 posted on 11/15/2008 5:09:06 PM PST by danamco
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To: jamese777
The raised Seal is visible on the copy of the COLB available at the factcheck.org web site. That along with the sworn affidavit of the Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics, Alvin T. Onaka, whose name is actually on Obama’s short form Certificate should suffice.

That means nothing, without examining the physical piece of paper, you can't tell if that's Obama's COLB or not. It could just as easily be someone else's, with lots of alterations, or BHO's with a few entries modified. None of the images at Fact Check are of sufficient resolution to tell. If they really wanted to convince anyone, they could have scanned the images in, or least laid the document flat, and took their photos, or some of them, from directly above, with very bright lighting. The main image, with the document folded, is laughably unprofessional.

1,613 posted on 11/16/2008 10:10:47 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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