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To: jetson

So that’s the point. That the birth certificate is a forgery. (Could you really accept that anything released now if real? After all the dems run Hawaii. . .)

Then why all the hoo-haw about his mom, where she lived and for how long? Seems like overkill and makes the argument look like so much paranoia. One point, well argued, is far more persuasive.

Thanks for the education.


630 posted on 11/15/2008 11:15:56 AM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom

The governor of Hawaii is a republican. One point well argued may be more persuasive yet imagine how persuasive the MSM could be if they wanted to find out the truth and followed up on all the arguments? The MSM was also content with Obama’s lies that he didn’t know Ayers. After the election Ayers comes out and says they were family friends. Obama lied, no one cares. The truth will eventually come out, but it may be too late.


635 posted on 11/15/2008 11:21:50 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: pa mom
Obama's Birth Certificate Verified By State

POSTED: 12:12 pm HST October 31, 2008

... Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

Think about Fukino's words:

"original birth certificate on record" (they don't have "birth certificates" in Hawaii - they DO have a Certification and Certificate of Live Birth, though...)

in accordance with state policies and procedures (to record a birth ON Hawaii, OR a foreign birth registered in Hawaii)


Think about what she said, and what she didn't say ... it speaks volumes


662 posted on 11/15/2008 12:02:02 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: pa mom
After all the dems run Hawaii. . .)

Actually the governor, Linda Lingle, is a Republican and a friend of Sarah Palin's.


680 posted on 11/15/2008 12:21:27 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: pa mom

I have not read the whole thread and am hoping you have been educated enough on this issue by then, but I can’t continue to read your posts without comment.

YOU need to read the background on this issue. It seems like you are stepping in with very strong opinions on this BC issue , but have no knowledge of the facts.

This is not paranoia. The document which was presented to the public via the web is probably a fake.

No way to fully know because the registration number in the top right corner was blacked out.

Any future documents he produces for examination should (if it is real) show a # that is traceable and real.

There is so much more info on this subject, but many of us have answered the same questions, over and over and over again.

If you want to be taken seriously then read the background of this. Then present your arguments. Right now you are just grasping at straws that have already been thrown away.

You should do some background reading and educate yourself.


893 posted on 11/15/2008 5:46:54 PM PST by Aurorales
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