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To: Chief Engineer
75. Further, the report does not say whether the birth certificate in the “record” is a Certificate of Live Birth or a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. In Hawaii, Certificate of Live Birth resulting from hospital documentation, including a signature of an attending physician, different from a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. For births prior to 1972, a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth was the result of the uncorroborated testimony of one witness and was not generated by a hospital. Such a Certificate could be obtained up to one year from the date of the child’s birth. For that reason, its value as prima facie evidence is limited and could be overcome if any of the allegations of substantial evidence of birth outside Hawaii can be obtained. The vault (long Version) birth certificate, per Hawaiian Statute 883.176 allows the birth in another State or another country to be registered in Hawaii. Box 7C of the vault Certificate of Live Birth contains a question, whether the birth was in Hawaii or another State or Country. Therefore, the only way to verify the exact location of birth is to review a certified copy or the original vault Certificate of Live Birth and compare the name of the hospital and the name and the signature of the doctor against the birthing records on file at the hospital noted on the Certificate of the Live Birth.

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1,544 posted on 11/16/2008 6:27:31 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM)
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To: Fred Nerks

The actual vault copy may have been sealed if he was adopted by Lolo so it wouldn’t be available to even Jr himself unless he filed with the court asking for it to be unsealed. I realize that registration of birth was lax in Hawaii when Jr was born and that certificates of that time had a section on them to mark for birth in another country. Did grandma register the birth? Who would question such a fine upstanding citizen as the mortgage administrator at Bankoh registering her grandson’s birth?


1,547 posted on 11/16/2008 6:35:06 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Fred Nerks
Yet another possible knot:

"Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence"

But did Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama's mom) live in Hawaii for the 12 months before the birth? She geaduated from High school in Washington State in June of 1960, at some point after, moved to Hawaii. Barack (or Barry?) was born just 14 months after her graduation.

1,552 posted on 11/16/2008 6:58:35 PM PST by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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