Posted on 11/14/2008 12:29:37 PM PST by atlbelle44
https://services.saccourt.com/indexsearchnew/CVFLPRDetail.aspx?Details=CV|2008-80000096|keyes|01/01/2008|12/31/2008|FilingDate|Asc|
http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
Has the next CIC committed felonies, in lying on risk of perjury disclosures, falsely (or perhaps treasonously) claiming citizenship of other nations in order to achieve college entry, a passport to travel to Pakistan, etc.?
Would you please quit making so much sense? That wasn't allowed before the election, and it certainly should not be allowed now.
“Again if there is any question of eligibility and the president fails to act in the interest of our country he should be impeached.”
I agree!
“If they believe Obama was ineligible to serve as president I can’t believe they’d sit back and let it happen.”
I can’t know what they know or don’t know. McCain wouldn’t call Obama a Socialist even though he was a literal “card-carrying” member with pictures to prove it on the internet. McCain wouldn’t run commercials with Wright in them. That doesn’t mean that McCain/Palin is in on some conspiracy.
How many suits are pending now?
Sorry, I've lost count...
He refuses to kill it because the Communists want to prove that the Constitution doesn’t matter. That is why he ran, he knows he isn’t a natural born citizen, it’s just another sharp stick in the eye of America.
Since we did not vote for the candidates, but instead for slates of electors, the Rat ticket is still the winner. If, before the Electors convene, Obama is found to be ineligible for the office, the Electors will simply vote for Biden. If Obama is found to be ineligible after the Electors convene, then Obama will not be allowed to take the office and it will again be Biden. If Obama is found to be ineligible after he takes office, he would be removed and it would be Biden again.
Some states require that the Electors vote according to the results of the popular vote and some do not. If it were discovered that Obama could not be President then this might create a situation where some of the Electors voted for Obama and some for Biden. No matter how they split Biden still ends up President if Obama isn't eligible, unless the Electors are simply not allowed in which case McCain might be elected (and the second American Civil War starts). Then there would be the law suits about Obama Electors belonging to Biden, etc.
There is no rational scenario under which anyone other than Obama, Biden, maybe McCain or possibly Pelosi (born in Baltimore) becomes our next President. There are two types of citizens. Natural born (born a citizen) or Naturalized (became a citizen some time after birth). The definition of who is natural born has been refined over the years, even as far back as the late 18th century, but the founders clearly had it in mind that children would be born to US citizens while they were in foreign countries and that these children would be considered natural born. There were gender based rules (father vs. parent) for the citizen parent that have been eliminated and residency rules that have been greatly relaxed.
McCain, not sure, but I agree with you... I don’t think there’s any way that Palin would be in on a conspiracy to help Obama.
Even the dead ones!
And this year, cartoon characters were finally given the right to vote as well.
I hear in some precincts, cats, dogs, horses, and even the occasional goat got to have their say as well!
Really, no need to complain. It's a wonderful thing, you know, to count every vote..
Obama is taking the most important job in OUR world. If he cannot provide or REFUSES to provide documenttation required by the Constitution to hold the job - he should not get the job. We do not need to make any excuses. He works for US (citizens). If he cannot comply with the job requirements then he should not get the job....
Exactly the point. He REFUSES to even address the requirements.
This has been a fraud by him, the DNC and the Media. They are hiding something and want to just steamroll it by everyone and what I don’t understand is how anyone who voted Republican can just go along.
In essence if anyone says the constitutional requirement doesn’t matter it is like saying go ahead fool me, I don’t care. It is only Socialism, weakening the US defense and making nice with our enemies under Obama.
Maybe McCain isn't but Sarah did just talk to Hillary a couple days ago. Kidding.
Seriously though, if this thing went somewhere and Obama never took office it would truly be the greatest miracle of my lifetime. Truly.
Me too. Palin was the ONE bright light in all of this.
It is extraordinary and unacceptable that Senator Obama refuses to make his natural born citizenship status completely clear. The constitutional question is a simple but essential one: anyone who wishes to serve as President of the United States must be clearly and unequivocally a natural born citizen of this country.
Mr. Obama has only recently admitted that he was a dual citizen of Kenya (from his "fightthesmears" website "Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982."); this startling admission now legitimately brings into question all of his clearly complex citizenship issues. Senator Obama must produce all birth records, both from the state of Hawaii and from his birth hospital, and he must produce records clearly showing his citizenship or visa status for his years in Indonesia.
Yes, I will do that.
Sure they can, he’s conservative and they will find a way.
Did he get into Harvard as a Kenyan or American?
Ok, so then let’s just shred the constitution if it doesn’t matter. This is not about losing, it is about ELIGIBILITY and I would think you could grasp the distinction. If you knew what you were saying you would understand that a Democrat will take over if Obama is found ineligible, so you can throw your sore loser theory out the window.
I stand on the principal of this issue and it has nothing to do with our failure in this election.
“Nope, he merely seceded control of the Canal to Panama. It was never US. Territory.’
You have been doing really great, itsahoot, but I have to correct you on one thing here.
We purchased every square inch of the Canal Zone. It took several years to square things with private land owners, but our tax money paid for the Canal Zone.
By the way, I was born in the Canal Zone (Gorgas Hospital) and still live in Panama. In other words, I’m not an outsider inventing things.
Keep up the excellent work.
My best regards.
He is not producing this stuff because it's damning, obviously, but probably not for the reasons everyone thinks. Kenya or anywhere overseas for that matter could be a blind alley. It could be somewhere else stateside that would open up all sorts of questions.
Did he get into Harvard as a Kenyan or American?...
Or Indonesian. In either case he probably got in or got a break because of non-US Citizenship.
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