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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
BTW:

I would like to add a couple notes:

first of all, I stated above that we were legally at war with Hussein. We signed a cease fire agreement after expelling Hussein from Kuwait. A cease fire is not a Peace Treaty. Hence, we were legally at war and Hussein broke this cease fire on numerous occasions. He needed to go. When the US took him out, it was the first time that I know of where someone put some teeth into the sanctions we have imposed on people.

second: the world has never seen a military move further and faster behind enemy lines, remove the head of a government, and with the least amount of people dead on both sides. When the dust settles, people will see the outstanding job our Troops did. We have not shot a uniformed soldier, a flagged Iraqi tank or plane for a very long time. The war is over and won by the United States. Hussein is gone and we won. I don't give a red rats keyster what Scary Reid, Nancy Peloser, or Hussein Obama has to say about it, it is over and won. Now, we need everybody to help us give freedom to a people.

We need unity in helping a new Country stand on her own. One that will help us defend against terrorism. It will not be easy. And by declaring the war lost and by declaring we need to pull out is almost treasonous. It is seditious at best. Pulling out prematurely will turn the new Nation over to terrorist thugs. If the rats want to pull out, Obama and others better promise me that we will never have to go back and dig terrorist camps out of Iraq like we did in Afghanistan. If we do have to go back, Obama, Reid, and Peloser should be the first people dropped behind enemy lines to terminate the terrorist camps.

If Obama and others will continue taking the fight to our enemy, I will support him, our Troops, and their mission. If Obama pulls out early, I will blame the next attack on him, because he did not keep our enemy off balance. I will even volunteer to pack the Barry, Scary, and Peloser's 'chutes for their mission in Iraq.

Sorry to bloviate (BOR word and sorry about using it), but I had all that on my chest and it feels good to git it off.

161 posted on 11/14/2008 11:23:23 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue
I need to add this too:

If we do have to go back, Obama, Reid, and Peloser should be the first people dropped behind enemy lines to terminate the terrorist camps.

Followed by Jodie Evans, Media Benjamin, and the rest of the code pinko freaks.

162 posted on 11/14/2008 11:34:30 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: do the dhue; HelloooClareece; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee

Yes, we were legally at war with Hussein. Yes, a cease-fire is only a cease-fire, not a peace treaty; and if one side violates the terms of the cease-fire, the other side may take military action.

Yes, Hussein broke the cease-fire by refusing to fully and completely cooperate with UN weapons inspectors. He broke the cease-fire by continuing to build missiles that had a greater range than he was allowed to have. Hussein never verified that he had destroyed all stocks of WMDs. These were a substantive breach of the terms of the cease-fire.

The UN Security Council unanimously agreed, in its November 2002 resolution, that Hussein was in “material breach” of the previous resolution that had created the cease-fire. It should be a no-brainer. Hussein violated the cease-fire. We were legally at war.

I agree that the war to remove Hussein was very successful, and eventually we did catch him. The Iraqi government, which is a true government “of the people, by the people and for the people” of Iraq, put him on trial and executed him. But al Qaida chose to extend that war. They poured in men, guns and money. And on our side, many mistakes were made. This is a continuation of the war against Hussein. It’s obvious that both Iraq and Iran recognized the Jidahi-prophesied capital of a future “Worldwide Caliphate” was to be in Baghdad. Iran wants to dominate not only Baghdad, but the entire region.

Terrorism is one of the weapons that both Iran and Iraq have employed to further their own dominance and influence in the region. Even if there is no proof of a pre-invasion alliance between Iraq and al Qaida, such an alliance was (in my opinion) almost inevitable. The enemy of Hussein’s enemy was his inevitable friend. This was a possibility that we faced in March 2003: a strategic alliance between al Qaida and the Hussein regime. Whether it was an existing fact or a future risk doesn’t really matter. What matters is that we couldn’t afford to allow it to continue to exist.

The war in Iraq has drained al Qaeda dry. It cost them a lot of men and weapons to sustain that war. This is a tremendous victory for America, for the Iraqi people, for our allies in the region, and for George W. Bush. But because it is a victory for George W. Bush, the news media make very little mention of it.


199 posted on 11/16/2008 5:51:33 AM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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To: do the dhue; HelloooClareece; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee; potlatch

Yes, we were legally at war with Hussein. Yes, a cease-fire is only a cease-fire, not a peace treaty; and if one side violates the terms of the cease-fire, the other side may take military action.

Yes, Hussein broke the cease-fire by refusing to fully and completely cooperate with UN weapons inspectors. He broke the cease-fire by continuing to build missiles that had a greater range than he was allowed to have. Hussein never verified that he had destroyed all stocks of WMDs. These were a substantive breach of the terms of the cease-fire.

The UN Security Council unanimously agreed, in its November 2002 resolution, that Hussein was in “material breach” of the previous resolution that had created the cease-fire. It should be a no-brainer. Hussein violated the cease-fire. We were legally at war.

I agree that the war to remove Hussein was very successful, and eventually we did catch him. The Iraqi government, which is a true government “of the people, by the people and for the people” of Iraq, put him on trial and executed him. But al Qaida chose to extend that war. They poured in men, guns and money. And on our side, many mistakes were made. This is a continuation of the war against Hussein. It’s obvious that both Iraq and Iran recognized the Jidahi-prophesied capital of a future “Worldwide Caliphate” was to be in Baghdad. Iran wants to dominate not only Baghdad, but the entire region.

Terrorism is one of the weapons that both Iran and Iraq have employed to further their own dominance and influence in the region. Even if there is no proof of a pre-invasion alliance between Iraq and al Qaida, such an alliance was (in my opinion) almost inevitable. The enemy of Hussein’s enemy was his inevitable friend. This was a possibility that we faced in March 2003: a strategic alliance between al Qaida and the Hussein regime. Whether it was an existing fact or a future risk doesn’t really matter. What matters is that we couldn’t afford to allow it to continue to exist.

The war in Iraq has drained al Qaeda dry. It cost them a lot of men and weapons to sustain that war. This is a tremendous victory for America, for the Iraqi people, for our allies in the region, and for George W. Bush. But because it is a victory for George W. Bush, the news media make very little mention of it.


200 posted on 11/16/2008 5:52:08 AM PST by Philo1962 (Iraq is terrorist flypaper. They go there to die.)
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