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This looks interesting. Maybe something will come from all of our efforts after all.

By the way, I wanted to pass this one by you guys. Someone posted it on my intrade thread. The jist of it seems to be, how can 2 Honolulu newspapers, print identical lists if Obama’s birth announcement was supposedly paid for?

http://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/240/2279.page

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In the page that Delphi linked (http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamabirth.php) the images are small, but if you click on the image it shows a larger image.

These are ...

http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif

One thing you will notice if you look at the full list - they are identical.

So two Honolulu newspapers, printing an identical lists? How does that happen? Maybe they are owned by the same people? I checked - they weren’t - they were rivals until May 1962 (http://www.altlaw.org/v1/cases/1065427)

So they must have had the same source ... A little more digging and it turns out that they do ...

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-likely-born-in-hawaii/#comment-12154

Hi, I’ve talked to the Department of Vital Records and the Honolulu Advertiser.In 1961, the hospitals would take their new birth certificates to Vital Records. At the end of the week, Vital Records would post a sheet that for the news paper to pick up that contained births, deaths, marriages and divorces. The Advertiser routinely printed this information in their Sunday edition. This is not a paid announcement that his grandmother could arrange. This is information that comes from Vital Records - we know this because this particular section reflects those records. They didn’t have a provision for paid, one sentence announcement that would be included in the Vital Records. At the time, if a child was born outside a hospital, the family would have 30 days to apply for a birth certificate and Vital Records would expect to see prenatal care records, or pediatrician records of the first check up, etc. They’d also want the notarized statement from the mid-wife. Of course, they can apply later but that would noted as a different kind of birth certificate. I think TD has already addressed that. This information was received by Vital Records the first week of his birth = that suggests the hospital.

Next, the announcement is from Sunday, August 13th and Obama was born on Friday, August 4th. Hospitals usually don’t take birth certificate information the first couple days to avoid changes. So it was likely filled out on the 4th or so, as hospital stays were usually 3 - 5 days at the time. Lastly, having worked in a newborn nursery in college, hospitals don’t ask for documentation. If mom says she’s married, that’s what they write. They have no authority to question her statement.

In Honolulu at the time, paid birth announcements weren’t in vogue. Frequently families would post one year announcements that included pictures from the party, etc. I haven’t checked to see if that exists.

I hope that finishes clearing this up.

This is from Lori who was the researcher that dug up the Sunday Advertiser announcement ... Oh and she is a “PUMA” so she was probably looking for a LACK of an announce.

Until I found this, I was reluctantly willing to concede that (however unbelievably unlikely,) it was theoretically possible or at least hard to disprove, the story that Obama was born in Kenya on the 4th, flew to Hawaii on the 6th or 7th and the birth was registered on the 8th. But this information blows even that crazy story out of the water.