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1 posted on 11/06/2008 5:26:16 PM PST by savvyguy
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You raise good points here. A loss is a loss, but in light of the circumstances McCain should have been lucky to break the 40% mark.


2 posted on 11/06/2008 5:28:54 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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It in no way matters why we lost.

We lost.

That is fact.

The question is, how do we save our Country?


3 posted on 11/06/2008 5:29:26 PM PST by KittenClaws
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Yes..Ron Paul could of won had we gotten behind him like we did the RINO shill McClame. We got suckered again. I even gave money to the Penguin cause of Sarah.


4 posted on 11/06/2008 5:29:54 PM PST by screaminsunshine
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The GOP should back its candidates and elected officials. The DNC certainly does. I blame the GOP and RNC first and foremost..


5 posted on 11/06/2008 5:30:38 PM PST by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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All he had to do was come out against the bailout and he’d have won. Worst campaign and worst candidate on the pubbie side I’ve ever seen.


6 posted on 11/06/2008 5:30:44 PM PST by wendy1946
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It’s okay to blame John McCain. He’s not one of us.

Joe The Plumber made a better case for electing John McCain than John McCain is. That can’t be blamed on the current conditions. The race was a winnable one. John McCain botched it. Sarah Palin is the only reason it wasn’t a 50 state landslide by 20 points.

I don’t see any point in not assigning blame where it is due. John McCain has been sticking his thumbs in our eyes for years. This was just a final middle finger to American conservatives from John McCain.


7 posted on 11/06/2008 5:32:08 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (One good thing about 11/4: I no longer have to pretend that I like John McCain.)
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“Be totally honest. Could any candidate, (even Gov. Palin), have been elected to succeed a president of his own party whose job approval rating was 25 percent? “

In America? Against an utterly unprepared, unvetted, glib, Leftist, shallow, Constitution hating, America despising, finger flipping, smirky adolescent? Yeah, pretty much. In America. Tells you something about how far we’ve drifted and where we are today.


10 posted on 11/06/2008 5:35:16 PM PST by TalBlack
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Be totally honest. Could any candidate, (even Gov. Palin), have been elected to succeed a president of his own party whose job approval rating was 25 percent? Probably not.

This statement contains a couple of false premises.

First, Bush's low approval rating is a combination of factors - a large group believes he was not conservative enough (spending, etc), and they disapprove of him for entirely different reasons than Democrats disapprove of him. The mere fact of this disapproval rating does not mean someone positioned from the conservative end of the spectrum was doomed to fail this election.

Second, the Democrat Congress has even LOWER ratings than Bush. How effective might a conservative been who attacked the Reid-Pelosi Congress and tied Obama to it, a Congress in which Obama was as left-wing and partisan a member as they come?

Could any candidate have been elected to continue his party’s stay in the White House when roughly 90 percent of Americans believed the country was on the wrong track? Probably not.

Again, the 90% number does not mean much in and of itself. A good portion of that number is people who think the track is not conservative enough.

Could any candidate from the governing party have been elected after the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged 4,000 points before one could even turn around? Probably not.

The roots of the financial meltdown was in affirmative-action mortgage social engineering.

This was the PERFECT opportunity to run against government control of the market in the name of diversity and the disastrous results of that.

The case was NEVER effectively made by McCain, who happened to be in an ideal position to make the case (having personally called for regulating the DNC subsidiarieis, Fannie and Freddie) and instead he blamed "greed on Wall Street." In my mind, this was the stupidest possible blunder McCain could have made, and it cost him the election.

12 posted on 11/06/2008 5:40:35 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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....Let's put this blame game behind and focus on what next, shape up & take over GOP! Prepping candidates, building stronger grassroots, etc.

First step has to be Republican primaries are held the same day as liberal primaries. Boot Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina to the last primaries held. And nobody agree to govt subsidies for campaign financing.

13 posted on 11/06/2008 5:41:25 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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All we have to do is leave our ideals at the door and then just get behind some good telegenic candidates with a good message and we'll be right back in the game!

Whoopee for us.

15 posted on 11/06/2008 5:42:56 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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I agree.

The piece barely mentions the MSM, but I don’t think anyone could have surmounted all the glorious review they gave Obama, while shamelessly attacking the GOP.

That being the case, I think McCain came pretty close.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 5:45:38 PM PST by incredulous joe (Carry on Regardless!!)
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Could any candidate from the governing party have been elected after the Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged 4,000 points before one could even turn around?

I am not educated enough to know how it was done but the timing of the meltdown was beyond coincidence. I also am catching a faint whiff of George Soros.

22 posted on 11/06/2008 5:49:23 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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I think we lost because Obama and the MSM cheated. Period. I hope someone will investigate Obama’s donations and not let it just slide. Even his own aunt was contributing illegally. He knew it and got away with it. Qaddafi claimed to be sending money to get O elected. And we don’t know to what extent Acorn affected the election. Then, of course, with the MSM campaigning on behalf of Obama and refusing to expose him, all the while on a mission to destroy Sarah Palin. If this had been a fair election, low Bush approval ratings and tanked market or not, McCain/Palin would have won.


28 posted on 11/06/2008 6:01:10 PM PST by Proudcongal
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It’s simpler than this- we were faced with the choice of two democrats.

it’s as simple as that. The ONLY reason I voted at all was because Palin was on the tiket.

WHEN THE HELL ARE THEY GOING TO LEARN????

Reagan:Conservative- wins in 2 landslides

Gingrich: conservative - WINS CONGRESS for the firs timein 40 years

Palin: Conservative- the ONLY reason McCain was even IN the race.

GET A CLUE

And now we get REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST Ms. Hoover someone saying young Republicans ‘get it’ about embracing abortion and gay rights, so we will win in the future.

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT

I hope we can recover from Socialism of Obama


31 posted on 11/06/2008 6:03:08 PM PST by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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For what it’s worth, I think that the media started their campaign to have Obama elected way back when they intensified their demonization of President Bush.

After they had completely destroyed President Bush they passed the baton to Obama, who then proceeded to link McCain to Bush in almost every other sentence.

The Republican ticket didn’t stand a chance.


34 posted on 11/06/2008 6:17:25 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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What Lost the Election? Vote for Bail Out.
Best McCain move? Choice of Palin
Worst McCain move? Bashing Bush not Congress

In Florida he lost virtually every Cuban vote with which he would have won.


36 posted on 11/06/2008 6:22:46 PM PST by AMNZ
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bump


39 posted on 11/06/2008 6:37:37 PM PST by fso301
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He made a career out of stabbing the base of the Republican Party in the back.
Then thought he could make up for it by throwing them a bone a couple of months before the election.
40 posted on 11/06/2008 6:38:14 PM PST by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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Here’s what sank McLame, “My friends,.....”


42 posted on 11/06/2008 6:45:15 PM PST by Hammerhead
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Good article thanks for posting.


46 posted on 11/07/2008 7:40:57 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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