Posted on 11/05/2008 7:43:12 PM PST by April Lexington
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What I wrote is what I believe would happen and the most likely scenarios in absence of actual FEC laws providing for this situation..
My reasoning was based upon the actual provisions of the Constitution, the concept of “original intent” that SCOTUS relies upon in absence of actual case law, and common sense.
Correct - they had established histories ...
In fact, Chief Justice John Marshall (a Federalist) swore his second cousin, Thomas Jefferson (a Democrat) into office.
And they hated each other’s guts ...
Thanks for the info on the other sites. I just keep going back to the fact that Obama has spent a great deal of money on lawyers to keep his birth certificate from public view. That alone is what has so many wondering WHY? I do want to see him have to produce the birth certificate. If his birth certificate is valid I also want to see the documents showing that he gave up his Kenyan or Indoneasian citizenship and pledged to the US. In other words, the issue of possible dual citizenship also needs to be resolved.
Thanks for helping me understand what is going on. Your post #79 explains what happened with Berg’s motions so well. Thanks again!
Oh geez, do we need a tin foil hat? Post this stuff elsewhere.
Apparently, only Queen Elisabeth has standing. If Obama isn't qualified to take the oath of office, can she get her continent back? s/
Congress has the duty to certify that the candidate is qualified to take office and that the electors have properly elected the person in accordance with the Constitution. They take an oath to uphold the constitution.
If Obama doesn&rsquo't produce evidence that he is qualified, this issue won't go away and it will haunt his presidency. Every bad decision or mistake (almost every day of any presidency, depending on who's side one is on) will highlight the fact that he is illegitimate in the office.
ONE WONDERS WHY HE WON'T PUT THIS SIMPLE ISSUE TO REST BY SHOWING A CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE THE BC WHILE IN CLOSED SESSION. THEY CAN LOOK AND CERTIFY HIS ELECTION AND NEVER DISCLOSE THAT HE'S PINK FRANK'S SON!!! (OR, WAS IT FIDEL, OR ....)
As we enter a much more diversified era in our history, citizenship of any president becomes more important and will certainly arise in the future. The SCOTUS has the opportunity to clarify administration of this Constitutional provision. Even if hugely unpopular with the majority party, the law must be followed. If Barry is qualified, swear him in so he can fail. IF he's not qualified don't swear him in or we trash our Constitution.
Barry has the keys to the White House in his pocket (Hawaiian depository). Show the birth certificate to a Congressional committee in closed session. If it's legitimate, elect and send over to the inauguration department for further processing. This is sooo simple. What is he hiding?
Can you point to any errors in our logic? It would be very helpful if we had your input this week.
Thanks for the link. I signed up and suggest everyone check out the site. We need better organization in order to make a difference. Somehow I don't think Obama will volunteer his birth certificate.
Wow.
Are we nation of men, or a nation of laws?
You tell me!
The secretarys of state have to certify electors. If they certify electors that they know will vote for an unqualified candidate, they are culpable.
It is their duty to certify that the electors are without controversy.
If Obama is unqualified and is inaugurated, I predict the United States of America will collapse into something very ugly. Read history and understand the French Revolution. If the Creepy One had one shred of decency, he'd not flip his opponents the bird, laugh at his own political jokes or withhold his birth certificate. What, as POTUS, has he to lose? Can he not rise to the challenge? This is a very sick mind we are about to swear in...
I thought this story would have died when the Gov. of Hawaii ordered that Obama’s Birth Certificate be sealed.
It seems that if the BC did not exist, it could not have been sealed by the State of Hawaii.
Citizens have a duty to uphold the Constitution. There is no ‘process’ for doing this. But it has to be done.
Or are you saying(like a corporatist) since there is no ‘process’ we don’t need to uphold the Constitution anymore?
Why is he hiding? How can we trust a leader who hides his qualifications. Is he or is he not legitimate? Just show the certificate and make us look like fools. I dare him!!!!!
How can we live with this crap for 4 years? Oh... he's black and we'd all be embarrassed if he can't serve... Just forget the Constitution. Its a White thang!
It is their duty to certify that the electors are without controversy.”
These folks take an oath to uphold the Constitution before they cast their votes. If they don't do their job, we need to prosecute them for violating the oath. Its like perjury.
If you don’t understand the threat to our Constitution and our rule of law then, yes, you will need a tinfoil hat.
“If you don’t understand the threat to our Constitution and our rule of law then, yes, you will need a tinfoil hat.”
I understand the Constitution and the rule of law, but if yout hink the Electoral College is not going to vote for Obama now, then you need the tinfoil hat.
I thought this story would have died when the Gov. of Hawaii ordered that Obama’s Birth Certificate be sealed.
It seems that if the BC did not exist, it could not have been sealed by the State of Hawaii.
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