Posted on 11/05/2008 1:35:36 PM PST by RobinMasters
Democrats have fifty-six seats, Republicans forty. With all or almost all (99% in Alaska) the votes counted, if current totals hold after recounts and whatnot, the Republicans get three more (Georgia, Minnesota, and believe it or not, Ted Stevens's seat in Alaska). Oregon only has about 3/4 reporting, with the Republican ahead slightly, and Portland results in.
More generally, the picture is of a solid Democratic win, but not the tsunami some had expected. Obama won the popular vote by a solid, but not crushing, margin of slightly less than six percent (52.4-46.5). Bill Clinton beat Bob Dole by a significantly greater margin and even greater relative percentage (49.25-40.71), and George Bush by a slightly lower margin, but higher relative percentage (43.01-37.45). Bush, meanwhile, beat Dukakis by a larger margin, 53.4 to 45.6. The Democrats picked up about twenty House seats, on the low end of the expected range. And, as noted above, they seem likely to pick up five or six Senate seats,which would make the Senate races either 18-16 in favor of the Democrats, or tied at 17-17, again on the low end of the expected range.
UPDATE: BTW, of course I'm aware that presidential elections are decided by the Electoral College, not the popular vote. But comparing electoral college results gives the same picture, and I think looking at the popular vote gives one a better idea of how much national sentiment has shifted to the Democrats.
Given the current split (a clear Dem majority, but well-short of fillibuster-proof) I figure that they’ll kick Joe Lieberman out of the caucus. Joe will probably put an “R” behind his name.
OK with the percentages but wasn’t the difference just like 6 million votes - 63 million for the messiah and 57 for McCain?
FYI (not a landslide...aka tsunami) ;)
“More generally, the picture is of a solid Democratic win, but not the tsunami some had expected. Obama won the popular vote by a solid, but not crushing, margin of slightly less than six percent (52.4-46.5). Bill Clinton beat Bob Dole by a significantly greater margin and even greater relative percentage (49.25-40.71), and George Bush by a slightly lower margin, but higher relative percentage (43.01-37.45). Bush, meanwhile, beat Dukakis by a larger margin, 53.4 to 45.6. The Democrats picked up about twenty House seats, on the low end of the expected range. And, as noted above, they seem likely to pick up five or six Senate seats,which would make the Senate races either 18-16 in favor of the Democrats, or tied at 17-17, again on the low end of the expected range.”
I dunno. 349 electoral votes looks a lot like a landslide to me, but I may be misguided.
65 million Americans said “no-keep the change” to Hussein.....
“OK with the percentages but wasn’t the difference just like 6 million votes - 63 million for the messiah and 57 for McCain?”
I think it was 62 million to 55 million for McCain.
A bad night, but it could have been MUCH worse.
What's in it for him if he does? I think he'll just drop the "Independent Democrat" crap and just call himself an independent.
An electoral landslide does not imply a Senate or House landslide, while a popular vote landslide would infer as much.....Capiche?
Well, nothing. Except the Dems were threatening to strip Joe of his committee assignments before the election. If they move on him he has nothing to lose.
Sure. It’s a sad day we look, with hopeful eyes, that 700 or so votes keeps Al Franken (aka The Clown) out of the Senate.
OBAMA: 63,042,806...
MCCAIN: 55,821,650...
DOW -486
NASDAQ -98
S&P - 53
Get the drift?
Rationalizers annoy me.
Joe should record the conversation and play it back on Fox News after its over.
Just Wait A Few More Days . . .
Reverberations take time. 'Nuff said by me here on FR.
The senate counte is wrong. If the Cloman amd Stevens victory’s hold up it will 44 (R) 54(D) and 2 (I) and I suspect Lieberman will soon be caucusing with the R’s once Harry Reid exiles him on Thursday.
He's not going to get a committee leadership from the Republicans. So Joe will probably be the new maverick and stay an independent.
OBAMA: 63,042,806...
MCCAIN: 55,821,650...
Day after
DOW -486
NASDAQ -98
S&P - 53
Get the drift?
Day after Day after
DOW -259.41 -2.84% and dropping
NASDAQ -44.12 -2.62% and dropping
S&P 500 -28.80 -3.02% and dropping
Are you still not getting the Drift? Here’s a hint. This will impact very little those who are going to receive the welfare checks. As far as IRAs and 401Ks, you can kiss them goodbye for a long time. I’m holding out, but it won’t be pretty.
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