Posted on 11/05/2008 5:03:43 AM PST by hardhead
Now that the blood-letting has begun, could there be anything good about this election?
We’re entering a depression - and Republicans aren’t in charge of anything. It will take more rhetorical ability than Republicans have shown themselves capable of to date, but when the economy is still a disaster four years from now, there’s no way it can be anything but “Obama’s Fault”.
““White Guilt”. It is dead and buried. Do not underestimate it’s effects.”
It’s only dead and buried if we refuse to allow the race card to be played. I predict the RINOS in the Senate will still roll over every time the race card is played.
The silver lining, politically, is that Obama will be unable to get us out of recession. Small business owners will work less. People above the poverty line will hide their money. The stock market will not boom. The housing crisis will continue when Obama forces lenders to lend more.
Oh well. They will get the government they deserve. Actually it could be fun to watch.
The dimwits who voted this crew in have the patience and brainpower of a flea so in about six months when the troops aren’t out of Iraq and O hasn’t caught Osama and we are still in financial turmoil, they will all turn on him like
a pack of wolves - - or at least I can hope.
“The GOP in Ohio went into the tank more then once.”
The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. You really hit the nail on the head. I love trite expressions, especially when our brilliant members of Congress can’t see the truth that you stated for sh**. This is the key problem that they never seem to understand. McCain’s number one problem. Why vote for him when he praises the other guy. Vote for the other guy. Buy direct, it’s more efficient. I also like redundancy.
Tantaros says we should hold the democrats responsible. How can we do jack when we have no power whatsoever, not in the media, not in Washington, not nowhere....
It is going to be a very dark four years ahead and I see NO silver linings right now.
The invasion from the northeast and inner DC continues to destroy these states.
Here is my list
1. The Bush/Clinton dynasty is over. That is a good thing. While the Bush’s did much good for the foreign policy of America they destroyed the Republican party with their domestic policy and their desire to be Democratic lite.
2. Speaking of Democratic lite, RINO’s got whacked last night and McCain lost big. The RINO part of the Republican party will have a hard time continuing to support Democratic lite as a winning strategy.
3. The media has once and for all been outed as totally in the tank for the Democratic party, even their biggest apologists have admitted this. Whether this leads to the acceleration of their demise is to be seen.
4. Globalism is on the ropes, the landslide election is a direct response to outsourcing and gutting our industry for profit. Ohio and Penn directly suffered from the hands-off attitude of the Republican party. When told that people were mad and suffering from wage stagnation the Republican party was dismissive and continued to applaud the winners of globalism, who they then assisted in bailing out. The financial meltdown is being placed at the Republican party’s feet whether they deserve it or not. Perhaps they will begin to quit believing that unfettered globalism is nirvana, and start focusing on rebuilding our countries industrial base and paying off our debts.
5. The Democratic party has no excuse for what happens next. They will be assisted by the lapdog media but now Obama will have to actually do something. His expectations have been shot through the ceiling and he will not be able to meet them when things go bad.
6. This is a Gen-Y elected president, they want to close the book on the boomers and their obsession with reliving the political wars of the 60’s and 70’s. Maybe Obama will actually break free from that type of dysfunctionality and focus of fixing problems, who knows.
7. Finally, the race hustlers (Jackson, Sharpton) will need to find a new gig. The race card will hopefully be abandoned now that Obama has been elected. This will help to heal the anger of the black community toward America. That is a good thing for America.
Any idea what it'd take to snag the popcorn/beer concession for that one?
You forget how many times God raised up enemies of Israel when Israel became idolatrous. At one point the women boiled and ate their children as God promised they would do if they turned their backs on Him.
col 1:16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
Preach it, brother! Can we blow the bridges over the Occoquan to stop the advance?
bttt
Virginia as of right now is totally disenfranchised and the only possible remedy would be to split NOVA off as a separate state. That would also mean that the rest of Virginia would have to pay its own way honestly but it’s probably capable of that at this point.
Wait, it gets worse. McCain lost NV, CO, and NM, three states Dubya won in 2004. Texas remains solidly Republican, but I’m not sure how much longer that will last because of our ever-growing Hispanic population and a national GOP (not the Texas GOP — we know better) whose biggest concern about them seems to be how fast and how many we can deport back to Mexico. The Hispanic vote slaughtered the GOP in California and is well on the way to doing the same in NV, CO, and NM. And maybe FLA — even FLA.
Really, when things are this bad, you have to start over almost from scratch and rebuild the base. The national exit poll says that only 32% of voters now identify themselves as Republicans, down from 37% four years ago. The GOP needs to build that number back up to the mid to high 30s. [Note to Chet 99: exit poll now says the breakdown is R32, D39, I29.]
Okay, now that I have had a miserable 2-3 hours to sleep on all this, time for some straight talk. McCain is a great American hero and patriot. I believe that, deep down, he was a genuine conservative on most issues. He deserved much better than what happened yesterday.
But he was not, and never was, the type of candidate who could make a principled, logical, compelling case for conservative principles that resonate with the public because they are TRUE and because they are in the best personal interest of voters to implement. That’s how you win back voters, one voter at a time until you get to 50%+. First you must have some core princples, and then you NEVER compromise your core principles merely to attempt to win votes from your enemies or “swing voters.” As McCain learned the hard way, they will simply take what you give them and then turn on you in the end when they no longer need you.
At the same time, you must build the type of party organization that identifies these base voters, registers them to vote (if they are not already registered), and then gets out their vote on election day. We had that type of organization in 2002 and 2004, but not afterwards.
And one other thing: we need the type of Republicans who, in the words of Bill Clinton, understand that each day is election day. They have to remain active in the political discussion and not go into a shell (or, more precisely, a cone of silence) the way the Bush Administration and the former GOP Congress did after the 2004 election. They need to get out and make speeches (and not just on the floor of Congress, but across the country), write op-ed pieces, appear on the screaming head shows, and otherwise make their case to the American people. When the other side gets in our faces, we must get into their faces right back. When they bring their knife — or their spitballs — we need to bring our gun.
In this last regard, we all complain about the liberal MSM, and it is a huge problem. But part of that problem is of our own making. We let our opponents set the terms of the debate, the words used, the images formed. We are constantly on the defensive, always explaining why we really aren’t the horrible evil people our political opponents claim we are. The media then reports all this as if it was fact. That must end with extreme prejudice. Republicans and conservatives must challenge and refute every argument our opponents make, make our own arguments, and defend them against liberal attacks (which won’t work as long as our arguments are true). We need to start running to win the 2010 and 2012 elections TODAY. Every day is election day.
Otherwise, get used to being out in the wilderness for the next generation of American politics.
I opened a Robert Heinlein book, Time Enough for Love, today to take things off my mind.
It is set in the distant future, over 2000 years from now, and opened with two characters discussing how democracy has long been disproved as a valid government structure because sooner or later people figure out they can vote themselves money.
The words echoed too strongly today, so I put down the book. We were at a critical crosspaths, and we chose wrongly. Obama represents a step back: the taxes aren’t even what worries me. It’s the outlawing of free trade, the capping of energy, the forced health insurance schemes, the support of subsidies, reducing NASA spending and research, et cetera that worries me.
He is the ultimate anti-progressive. In an age where India and China are looking forward and engaging in space exploration, the country as a whole has chosen to go backwards, hoarding their own shrinking assets, essentially conceding the future to Asia.
We’re already discussing a trip to Ireland next year. It is already the hottest trend for companies to set up offices in Ireland, and it can only accelerate. Google, who campaigned for Obama openly, have ironically been establishing a presence in the tax free land.
This will be my last post under FR. It’s been a short, but fun run. I hope I’m wrong.
"we need the type of Republicans who, in the words of Bill Clinton, understand that each day is election day."
The thing that really baffles the hell out of me is how the Congress with an approval rating of 13% not only survives, but also add.
Nevada
2008 Obama (D) 55% McCain (R) 43%
2004 Bush (R) 50.5% Kerry (D) 47.9%
2000 Bush (R) 49.5% Gore (D) 46.0%
1996 Clinton (D) 43.9% Dole (R) 42.9%
1992 Clinton (D) 37.4% Bush (R) 34.7%
1988 Bush (R) 58.9% Dukakis (D) 37.9%
1984 Reagan (R) 65.8% Mondale (D) 32.0%
1980 Reagan (R) 62.5% Carter (D) 26.9%
1976 Ford (R) 50.2% Carter (D) 45.8
Vote
Obama 531,884
McCain 441,998
If the GOP concedes NV+CO+NM(+AZ?) in the future elections, in addition to the entire West Coast, then to get to 270 it has to draw a straight flush: FL + OH + IN + MO + the entire South (with VA and NC) + something else in the MidWest (WI? MN?). This is next to impossible.
We have to get back to 40% of hispanic vote, and fast.
And getting party ID gap down to 3 or 4 is a must. But the economy can take care of it by itself in 4 years.
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