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BTW, I think the government ought to butt out of the marriage issue altogether (except in the case of minors---I do believe the government has the responsibility to protect those who are incapable of protecting themselves and who are not yet capable in terms of maturity to choose adequately for themselves.) Marriage should be a religious and personal matter entirely.

Also the government needs to stop telling churches and religious bodies and individuals that they cannot teach against immoral activity (such as illicit heterosexuality, homosexuality, etc.) We simply need less government intervention in the whole affair and more individual and church involvement in the matter. For Christians, these matters are our responsibility to handle, not the government's. They need to get out of the way and let us handle our own responsibilities.

6 posted on 11/03/2008 7:23:42 PM PST by MarcoPolo
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To: MarcoPolo

But marriage is part of our secular law too, not just a matter of religions recognizing marriage.

That’s what Prop 8 is about, which is how marriage will be recognized in the secular law. I agree that churches should define marriage and morality as they see fit, however, our culture and society should still have societal standards, or cultural norms such as marriage, or whatever term you want to use.

If only churches dealt with marriage, then those who are not religious, or only loosely tied to religion, would never be married at all. And that would be a detriment to them, to society, and to their children, in my opinion.


7 posted on 11/03/2008 9:46:27 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MarcoPolo

Marriage is FAR beyond a “religious and personal matter”; it’s a natural, biological, physiological matter with global social ramifications.

“Marriage” is a literal impossibility for same-gendered pairs, because opposite gendered pairing is THE elemental prerequisite for “marriage”.

So, supporting Prop 8 in preserving the literal, natural, centuries-old definition of “marriage” has exactly NOTHING to do with rights; civil, moral, legal, or otherwise. It has everything to do with affirming the astoundingly obvious, but studiously ignored.

So, it’s time to get on out and tell the queerly beloved that “No, same-gendered pairs don’t ‘marry’, so you can’t call it ‘marriage’.”

It’s just THAT simple.


8 posted on 11/03/2008 9:52:23 PM PST by HKMk23 (If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking beer, I bet it makes beer shoot out your nose.)
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