Posted on 11/02/2008 7:20:59 PM PST by markedmannerf
Sway: Our next question is from Matt from Iowa: "If your desire is to spread the wealth around, what incentive is there for me to try to work hard? If I am only going to get more taken away from me, the more money I make, why wouldn't I just slide into a life of relaxation and let rich people take care of me? And a lot of people are asking similar questions, and I wanted you to specify. What does this mean exactly?"
Obama: What is amazing to me is this whole notion that somehow everybody is just looking out for themselves. I mean, the fact is, we just talked about student loans. When young people who have the drive and the skill to go to college can't afford to go to college, how do you think we pay for scholarships or loan programs? That money doesn't grow on trees. It's got to come from somewhere, and the attitude that I have is that, if we want to grow our economy, the way it grows is from the bottom up. You don't just give tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires. What you do is make sure the tax code is fair.
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Back in the 1990s, we created more millionaires, more billionaires, because the economy was growing, everything was strong, at every income bracket, people were doing well. So this idea, that somehow everybody is just on their own and shouldn't be concerned about other people who are coming up behind them, that's the kind of attitude that I want to end when I am president.
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excellent phrasing, etc. from questioner. very revealing answer... we’re doomed...
I want them to tax the profits of big name entertainers and entertainment executives to subsidize the price of movie and concert tickets.
Ok, so we have 20 million illegal immigrants who came here with nothing and who will be given citizenship over being sent back home.
So we have to help "them come up" economically, at which point they will be taking higher paying jobs and we will be needing even more low income foreign workers to come over here to work crappy jobs below minimum wage. And we'll be paying for the social safety net and economic redistribution the entire time.
Ponzi scheme or highway robbery.
You do realize that there is a Hollywood bailout for “small films” (under $50million) in that Banking Bailout bill, don’t you?
Maybe I'm no economist, but a lot of loan programs charge borrowers interest for the money. In turn, they pay part of the interest received from the borrower to investors who put up the money. I'm just sayin'...
A flat rate for everyone would seem to be the most fair. Kind of an "equal protection under the law" type thing...
Since when do we elect presidents to "end" attitudes? The Constitution provides for a Chief Executive whose job it is to see that the laws are faithfully executed - I don't see where the re-education part comes in.
“So this idea, that somehow everybody is just on their own and shouldn’t be concerned about other people who are coming up behind them, that’s the kind of attitude that I want to end when I am president.”
I’ve got a book ObamaNATION should read; “Looking out For #1” by Robert J. Ringer.
In it, he explains why it is not only right, but beneficial to look out for oneself. I’ve read it, and frankly, it’s done a great job of convincing me that if everyone minded their own business and didn’t try to “help” other people, the world would work out a lot better.
Now that obtaining a college education (or at least a college degree)has become a basic right, our institutions of “higher” learning will find ways to absorb as much money as the federal government makes available, and woefilled tales in the press about the impossibly high costs of college tuition will keep the pressure on.
I think of the Belushi cafeteria scene in “Animal House”.
That will be provided by the "Strength Through Joy Act of 2009".
See your local Reichskommisar for details.
Also, anyone notice how he automatically assumed Sway was a millionare, despite not knowing diddly about him?
Translation: "I have no idea what I'm talking about where economics is concerned, but if I B.S. enough, maybe I can get some money out of your pockets to buy more votes."
Ten bucks says that will be removed soon under “Separation of Church and State”.
You forgot to mention that college is expensive largely because of government tuition assistance, student loans, and grants. It’s similar to the housing bubble. As more government money is pumped into the colleges, tuition increases. Does it make it to the classrooms? Not from what I’ve seen.
In my opinion, many people shouldn’t even be taking college in the first place. We have become an over-credentialed society.
You write: “When I went to college it was 100% on my dime - no student loans. I worked a full time job...”
But, you see, under ‘bama’s plan, the student won’t have enough time to go to school AND work enough hours to be able to do things like, oh, eat and pay bills, because he intends to make all students, starting in middle school and up, give, to start, at least 100 yours a year to “volunteer” service.
This is something the young people haven’t caught onto yet, not the very real probability of a draft. They’re had that simmering in the wings for some time now.
Besides, how else is he going to fill the ranks of his Personal Praetorian Guard - aka National Security Force that he plans that will be “JUST AS POWERFUL, JUST AS STRONG, JUST AS WELL FUNDED” as the military.
Here’s the number of military as of last year, most stationed around the world.
2007 (August) 1,380,082
Picture over a million new “NATIONAL POLICE” - OVER 26,500 THOUSAND PER STATE. I guess that would be enough to clamp down on anyone who dared raise their voice. Sounds more like a “Praetorian Guard”.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y
Here are the under-reported reasons I have collected why McPalin will win from visiting FR way too much.
1) ACORN has been stuffing the Democratic registration lists for years now, especially this year. Pollsters use these stuffed registered-voter lists to poll real people, so if the lists read 60%D, 40%R, the pollster will poll 60 Ds for every 40 Rs. If every D were for Obama and every R were for McCain, Obama ought to be ahead by 20 points in the polls He’s not! Ergo, McCain is actually ahead and doesn’t know it!
1) The press (AP, MSNBC) is starting to turn on Obama. They see what’s happening in the early returns. Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2119327/posts and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2119299/posts
2) If you have not considered that Democratic Presidential campaigns would try to browbeat you into thinking that a Democrat win was inevitable, and that you should side with “history,” and vote with everyone, please read http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117212/posts
3) According to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118129/posts, McCain is polling evenly in early voting exit polls in a county that has 28% more Democrats. Repeat: DEMOCRATS ARE VOTING McPALIN!!!
4) Oh yeah, the “Joe the Plumber” video isn’t the only time Obama has let fly with his “spread the wealth” worldview. He blabbed about it profusely in 2001 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116921/posts
5) “Polls” that show Obama ahead tell a different story when internals are studied. Please see http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/an-eeyore-free-zone for a primer on how polls are cooked. UPDATE: Rasmussen saying McCain ahead in Florida and Ohio.
And now, a brief history lesson of ACTUAL ELECTION RESULTS:
1980: Reagan 50.75%, Carter 41%, (+9.75 Reagan) Reagan won 45 states.
1984: Regan 58.77%, Mondale 40.56% (+18.21 Regan) Reagan won 49 states.
1988: Bush 53.37%, Dukakis 45.65% (+7.72 Bush) Bush won 42 states.
1992: Clinton 43.01%, Bush 37.45%, Perot 18.91% (+5.66% Clinton) Clinton won 30 states.
1996: Clinton 49.23%, Dole 40.72%, Perot 8.40% (+8.49% Clinton) Clinton won 31 states.
2000: Bush 47.87%, Gore 48.38% (Gore +0.49%) Bush won 30 states.
2004: Bush 50.73%, Kerry 48.27% (Bush +2.46%) Bush won 31 states.
NO WAY was Obama ever up 14 points! He won’t even break 49%.
6) Hillary and Bill are not acting like they want Obama to win, since she wants to run again in 2012, despite what she alludes to. Notice Hillary has not gotten Berg to cut it out with his “birth certificate” lawsuit.
7) “Hussein” being Obama’s middle name is still news to most people.
8) A picture of Obama dressed as a Muslim (there are at least three) is still worth 1000 words (3000 in this case). Man your email station! Post bills!
9) The PUMAs who know the hows and whys of Hillary getting cheated, will vote Palin, and will pull others. Check out http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=33711&page=3 and http://democrats-against-obama.org. Freeper lonestar67 says, “Surveys have suggested that as many as 20-30% of Democrats may vote for McCain based on the rejection of Hillary. If even fractions of these claims are true, Obama would be hard pressed to win the election— especially in key states such as Pennsylvania and Ohio.”
10) “[Bitter Clingers] to [Religion and Guns]”, will vote McCain, so much so that 22K of the 45K in Grand Junction, Colorado came out to see her http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110920/posts.
11) The Palins ARE America and the conservative base. America and the conservative base will vote accordingly. According to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2106836/posts parts of the country that were not fired up about the election, are working for Palin. She draws THOUSANDS at every campaign stop.
12) The NRA has “8 figures” of ads to unload in “swing” states
13) At one point, Obama was only 5 points up in New York! New York!
14) The Democrats were talking about Democratic consultants freaking out over Obama mis-managing his campaign before they settled into poll alteration.
15) The Enemedia is already spreading the meme that if Obama loses, it “is racism”. They see the tea leaves ...
16) The Media was calling the election for Kerry ELECTION MORNING in 2004, and Carter and Reagan polled evenly on election day! SOMEONE is trying to buffalo us with these polls! For more on the history of polls leaning Democrat, please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2106669/posts Both Zogby and Mike McCurry predicted a Kerry win.
17) McCain has only started to play the Ayers card. McCain has not yet played the Tony Rezko, Odinga, ... more at http://www.barackbook.com
18) Plenty of long-time Democratic voters are http://thehill.com/dick-morris/undecideds-should-break-for-mccain-2008-10-28.html Long time Democrat votesrs are unimpressed with Obama, and will not vote for him. Two midwestern transplants have volunteered to me that they know lifelong Democrats who WILL NOT vote for Obama. The 1st hand accounts here on Free Republic about lack of enthusiasm for Obama relative to Kerry similarly bodes poorly for Obama.
19) Obama has only 75% of the Jewish vote last I checked, just like Kerry (comfortable R win). Gore got 90% (close R win). Please see http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_and_the_jewish_vote.php and http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08293/921167-470.stm
20) The Christian base that re-elected Bush in 2004, knows Sarah is more than a Sunday Christian, and is praying for her.
21) McCain opened 50 offices in California. It’s in play! It should be the bluest of the blue, and it is not.
22) Google “Bradley Effect”. Obama is getting poll votes he’ll never get on election day. PUMAs have also agreed to lie to pollsters about supporting Obama, and are encouraging others to do so.
23) Operation Chaos resulted in an overlarge quantity of Democrat registrations that will never ever vote Democratic.
24) Obama’s “spread the wealth” line to Joe the Plumber will cost him undecideds not ready to etch the current class structure in stone.
25) The Enemedia overstating Obama’s popularity will cut two ways. The lazy, and the youth, (core Democrat constituencies) will not brave traffic and lines to vote on election day, since they were lied to by the KGBMedia to believe that Obama has a gigantic lead. In fact, if I worked for the GOP, I’d make sure free beer/music parties were being held outside of every major blue city before/on election day. They’re called “raves”.
26) There is a group playing Jeremiah Wrights ads. Read more about it http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2108462/posts, and to donate visit https://www.completecampaigns.com/FR/contribute.asp?campaignid=OCDBPac.
27) The Obama crew already knows they’re going to lose. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110803/posts and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2103037/posts
28) Kerry won the Nickelodeon kids vote 57/43, and Obama won it 51/49! If you don’t think kids vote like their parents, then you got another thing coming! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110843/posts
29) Freeper lonestar67 says, “... the misogynist treatment of Palin by the media elite has provided additional elements to the coming silent backlash— especially among women.”
30) Three people over 50 (white male and two Mexican women), on two occasions, on October 25th, asked me if I know about Obama not being a citizen. My Dad knows, and he emailed all his friends also. Point being, EVERYBODY KNOWS that Obama ain’t benevolently and humbly forthcoming with his birth certificate, and thus something fishy is afoot in Camelot.
31) Polls are meant by the Enemedia, to SHAPE public opinion, not to accurately report it. Get your news here! Stop torturing yourself! We bring the liberal media lies here, and we dissect them through the lenses of Christianity and Conservatism.
Make sure you ...
1) campaign and/or pray and/or donate
2) vote
3) wear the gracious smile of a victor
Fellow Freepers, please feel free to post this list every time you see a Freeper or anyone feeling down, anywhere. No need to credit me or ping or write me.
Let me know if you have any other under-reported reasons for the coming McCain/Palin win.
Please tell me if you think there are mistakes.
Hey Obama supporters!! Taxes kill businesses, which kills jobs, which kills people.
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