Posted on 11/02/2008 4:03:45 AM PST by tedbel
(HONOLULU)(November 2, 2008) Here's a little test for you: how many mainstream media have asked to see Barack Obama's original, typewritten 1961 Certificate of Live Birth ('COLB') in Honolulu? As far as we know, none. Only I have actually followed procedures to get access to the document. I have filed a lawsuit seeking access, and have a court hearing scheduled for November 18th in Honolulu.
(Reminder: in 2004, the Chicago Tribune filed a lawsuit to open a stale divorce file of Obama's opponent; this year, the Tribune has been stone cold silent in the face of Obama's intimidation.)
Fox News has led the latest parade of mainstream disinformation. Major Garrett of Fox said Saturday that Hawai'i officials had determined Obama was born in Hawai'i. Whoa. Garrett's claim was confusing, misleading and totally unsubstantiated. Texas Darling is in general agreement with my analysis.
A Hawai'i COLB is only one piece of paper in a complicated evidentiary inquiry involving Obama. No one outside two people from the Hawai'i Department of Health has apparently viewed the original 1961 document. Neither of them has any forensic or legal experience. Health Director Chiyome Fukino is a medical doctor.
She probably dug out the original COLB because the Attorney General of Hawaii asked her to. Does that make sense? Absolutely it does. After all, his office has to appear at a court hearing in two weeks and respond to my lawsuit. That is the way lawsuits progress. Lawyers (AG) consult clients (DofH) and ask for evidence to prepare for court.
A couple of days ago I asked my readers to participate in explaining the peculiar fact that Barack Obama was supposedly born in Hawai'i, and three weeks later his mother was a college student in Seattle,
(Excerpt) Read more at israpundit.com ...
This is like chasing a roach around the kitchen counter.
The first court requested the birth certificate. Obama **appealed** that first court's ruling. Wow! That is really very suspicious.
Obama could have made this whole thing go away by providing the requested documents ( a very simple matter) when Berg filed the first suit.
governor.lingle@hawaii.gov
If Obama were born in Hawaii these officials would have plainly stated, “Obama was born in Hawaii”. Please notice that they did not do that.
Gov Lingle What the hell is going on! If you are a conservative and believe in the constitution why are you not doing your best to settle this Obama birth certificate problem. Locking up access to the document is idiotic, even third world like. We ALL have to abide by rules or so we are told. Some animals are not supposed to be more equal than others. We Republicans can not make sense of what you are doing. Has the Clinton mafia gotten to you? Are you afraid of riots? Has the old boy networked muzzled you? This is America and we are supposed to play fairly. The constitution is supposed to dictate the laws of the land and Obama has not yet proven he is a natural born citizen with his vault birth certificate. Please help to settle this possible problem before we have a constitutinal crisis on our hands thus eroding our laws even further. Too many questions and not enough answers. All of you in political positons work for we the people. If our politicians can not be trusted there is little hope left for the future of a free United States of America. Please do the right thing.
Seems you have already made up your mind.
Few of us are lawyers here, but you do get a sense of overwhelming circumstantial info after a while and if you don't know who techdude is do your own research. I have done plenty of mine.
For some people there is never enough evidence. Last I heard the Berg suit is still in play it was thrown out of one court but is in play in another.
With sad, old, mad people like you everyone on the internet is lying and you are the only source of truth,but sadly for you,much of what we say and on here especially on FR comes true,overwhelming evidence or not.
Must be a miserable existence for you.
Oh I've been watching this for some time, and it's been very amusing.
We must be thinking of different cases then. The Berg case got thrown out on teh first round. Which court requested the birth certificate and when did Obama appeal it?
Nothing there even suggests that the document (that has been posted) claiming to be an accurate representation of Obama birth bears any resemblence to what the authories have viewed. They could make that statement, if we have seen the document (then why no release a copy from file) ... just say so.
They haven't. This is what she said:
Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
She did not say original Hawaii birth certificate. Under Hawaii law, he could have applied for a Hawaii birth certificate provided he could show his mother was a resident of Hawaii one year prior to his birth. Part of that process is submitting your original birth certificate. So therefore, in accordance with state policies and procedures , they would have his original birth certificate on record. It does not mean it is a Hawaii birth certificate.
I think I smell a troll.
Do you smell the stench of a troll? ( Just wondering)
I have seen several copies of Obama’s birth announcement from 1961 Hawaii newspapers posted on line. I have also seen the posting of his mother’s enrollment at the University of Washington for the 1961 fall semester. She would have to be one tough mama to accomplish that. One thing that is possible is that Obama was born earlier that summer and brought into the United States when she returned. I don’t know what the status of a baby is, one or two months old, being brought into the United States by it’s American mother. The August birth announcement in Hawaii newspapers also would tend to discredit this possibility.
And I've seen articles that indicate she didn't enroll until spring of 1962, several month's after the birth. A lot of women attend college and care for infants. It's tough, but doesn't fall into the super-hero category.
One thing that is possible is that Obama was born earlier that summer and brought into the United States when she returned.
Then prove it.
Could be that paper mill down south or could be your lower lip. Please don’t make me feel unwanted.
If Obama were thrown off the ballot, we might get a Hillary for president. Her name would be entered on the ballout, and she could win.
If Obama is disqualified after his election, there is a good argument for McCain to become president. Having a disqualified president is not the same as having a deceased one, and Biden would not necessarily become the president because he did not run for the office of president. In essence, the Democratic Marxist Party will have presented an empty slot for the position of president. The Democratic Marxists presented a candidate that the voters could NOT vote for.
Also....I think the Republican Party officials have a good indication from their specially commissioned polls that Obama will lose.
Hopefully, in the future our legislators will clarify the vetting process for who can run for any elected office.
Our Founding Fathers recognized that our experiment in self rule is built upon a foundation of good will. The Democratic Marxists are not people of good will. We can not write laws tight enough or Constitutions explicit enough to corral and contain evil people. Ultimately the honest among us will be forced to confront and defeat evil.
Finally, I hope the question of criminal fraud will be raised. There are a **lot** of people who were persuaded to donate money to someone who was not qualified to accept it. If Obama is not a natural born citizen ( or even a naturalized citizen) perhaps it may mean prison time for Obama and his minions.
Could be that paper mill down south or could be your lower lip. Please don’t make me feel unwanted.
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That troll smell isn’t coming from you or The Cipher.
It is definitely from the opposite direction. :-)
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Thank you for the links.
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