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redstate.com ^ | 10/30/2008 | Annonymous

Posted on 10/31/2008 12:31:27 AM PDT by DiogenesLaertius

I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy the gossip or the attention directed my way. I’m doing this because I doubt much of you know the true weaknesses of Obama. Another reason for my doing this is that I am lost faith in this campaign, and feel that this choice has been forced on many people in this country. Put simply, you are being manipulated. That was and is our job – to manipulate you (the electorate) and the media (we already had them months ago). Our goal is to create chaos with the other side, not hope. I’ve come to the realization (as the campaign already has) that if this comes to the issues, Barack Obama doesn’t have a chance. His only chance is to foster disorganization, chaos, despair, and a sense of inevitability among the Republicans. It has worked up until now. Joe the Plumber has put the focus on the issues again, and this scares us more than anything. Being in a position to know these things, I will rate what the Obama campaign already knows are their weak links from the most important on down.

1 – Hillary voters. Internal polling suggests that at best, we are taking 70-75% of these voters. Other estimates are as low as 60% in some areas – particularly Ohio and western PA. My biggest problem with this campaign’s strategy was the decision NOT to offer Hillary the VP slot. She was ready and able to take this on, and would have campaigned enthusiastically for it. This selection would have also brought virtually all of her supporters into the fold, and the Obama campaign knew it. Though I have no way of knowing this for certain, and I do admit that I am relying on internal gossip, Senator Obama actually went against the advice of his top advisors. They wanted him to choose her, but the only significant opposition to this within the campaign came from Barack and Michelle Obama. In short, he let personal feelings take precedence over what was the most logical thing to do. Biden, by the way, has been a disaster inside the campaign. Everyone cringes whenever he gives an interview, and he creates so many headaches as the campaign has to stay on their toes in order to disseminate information and spin whatever it was he was trying to say.

2 – Sarah Palin. Don’t believe what the media is telling you about how horrible a choice she was. Again, our internal polling suggest that though she has had a minimal impact on pulling disaffected Hillary Democrats to McCain, she has done wonders in mobilizing the base for McCain. Another thing – we were completely taken by surprise with her pick. In my capacity in the research department, I looked into the backgrounds of Leiberman, Romney, Pawlenty and Ridge, and prepared briefs. I don’t mind bragging that we had pretty good stuff on all of them. With Leiberman, the plan was to paint him as an erratic old-timer who didn’t have a clue as to what he was doing (pretty much a clone of McCain). In Romney, we had him pegged as an evil capitalist who cut jobs. Pawlenty was going to get the “Quayle treatment”, or more precisely: a pretty face, with no valid experience. Tom Ridge was going to be used to provide a direct link from McCain to Bush. As you can see, we were quite enamored of all of them. Then the unexpected happened – Sarah Palin. We had no clue as to how to handle her, and bungled it from the start. Though through our misinformation networks, we have successfully taken some of the shine off. But let there be no doubt. She remains a major obstacle. She has singlehanded solidified “soft” Republican support, mobilized the McCain ground game, and has even had some appeal to independents and Hillary voters. This is what our internal polling confirms.

3 – Obama’s radical connections. Standards operating procedure has been to cry “racism” whenever one of these has been brought up. We even have a detailed strategy ready to go should McCain ever bring Rev. Wright up. Though by themselves they are of minimal worth, taken together, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Father Pfelger, and now, Rashid Khalili, are exactly what the campaign does not need. The more focus on them, the more this election becomes a referendum on Obama. The campaign strategy from the very beginning was to make this election a referendum on Bush. Strategists have been banging their head on how successfully McCain has distanced himself from Bush. This has worked, and right now the tide is in his favor. People are taking a new look at Barack Obama, and our experience when this happens tells us this is not good news at all. When they take a look at him, one or more of these names are bound to be brought up. McCain has wisely not harped on this in recent weeks and let voters decide for themselves. This was a trap we set for him, and he never fully took the bait. Senator Obama openly dared him to bring up Ayers. This was not due to machismo on the part of Obama, but actually due to campaign strategy. Though McCain’s reference to Ayers fell flat in the last debate, people in the Obama campaign were actually disappointed that he didn’t follow through on it more and getting into it. Our focus groups found this out: When McCain brings these connections up, voters are turned off to him. They’d rather take this into consideration themselves, and when this happens, our numbers begin to tank.

4 – The Bradley Effect. Don’t believe these polls for a second. I just went over our numbers and found that we have next to no chance in the following states: Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire and Nevada. Ohio leans heavily to McCain, but is too close to call it for him. Virginia, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa are the true “toss up states”. The only two of these the campaign feels “confident” in are Iowa and New Mexico. The reason for such polling discrepancy is the Bradley Effect, and this is a subject of much discussion in the campaign. In general, we tend to take a -10 point percentage in allowing for this, and are not comfortable until the polls give us a spread well over this mark. This is why we are still campaigning in Virginia and Pennsylvania! This is why Ohio is such a desperate hope for us! What truly bothers this campaign is the fact that some pollsters get up to an 80% “refuse to respond” result. You can’t possibly include these into the polls. The truth is, people are afraid to let people know who they are voting for. The vast majority of these respondents are McCain supporters. Obama is the “hip” choice, and we all know it.

As part of my research duties, I scour right wing blogs and websites to get somewhat of a “feel” as to what is being talked about on the other side. Much of it is nonsense, but there are some exceptions which give the campaign jitters. A spirited campaign has been made to infiltrate many pro-Hillary sites and discredit them. A more disorganized, but genuine effort has also been made to sow doubts among the unapologetically right wing sites such as redstate.com. Don’t you guys get it? This has been the Obama campaign’s sole strategy from the very beginning! The only way he wins is over a dispirited, disorganized, and demobilized opposition. This is how it has been for all of his campaigns. What surprises me is that everyone has fallen for it. You may point to the polls as proof of the inevitability of all of this. If so, you have fallen for the oldest trick in the book. How did we skew these polls, you might ask? It all starts with the media “buzz” which has been generated over the campaign. Many stories are generated on the powerful Obama ground game, and how many new voters were registered. None of this happens by coincidence. It is all part of the poll-skewing process. This makes pollsters change their mixes to reflect these new voters and tilt the mix more towards Democratic voters. What is not mentioned or reported on is not the “under-reported cell phone users or young voters” we hear so much about. What is underreported is you.

I changed my somewhat positive opinion of this campaign during the unfair and sexist campaign against Sarah Palin. I will never agree with her on the issues and will probably never vote for her, but I am embarrassed of what has happened. I can’t ignore our own hand in all of this. What I do know is that I will not be voting for Obama this time around. Treat that as you will.


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KEYWORDS: 2008polls; campaign; mccain; obama; president; puma
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Take it for what its worth, but to me, it vibed too real to ignore. I especially thought the information about the opposition research, Michelle Vetoing Clinton as VP, and why the Obama campaigns in many areas that should be considered safe in the last week of the election. At any rate, it gives plenty of reasons to be hopeful even if it is patently false.

Keep fighting!

1 posted on 10/31/2008 12:31:27 AM PDT by DiogenesLaertius
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To: DiogenesLaertius
Get out there folks.

Otherwise, this is coming to a neighborhood near you from January:


2 posted on 10/31/2008 12:36:08 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Job One: DEFEAT OBAMA. Job Two: Win or Lose, A TOTAL De-RINOfication of the G.O.P. on all levels!!)
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To: DiogenesLaertius
looks legit. great inside intel (if true). i suspect it is.

we know the tactics and our counter moves.

3 posted on 10/31/2008 12:38:45 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Job One: DEFEAT OBAMA. Job Two: Win or Lose, A TOTAL De-RINOfication of the G.O.P. on all levels!!)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

I’m naturally suspicious of anyone who posts “Annonymous”(sic)ly.

That said, the basic conclusion is correct: Conservatives will lose if they a) permit a divide-and-conquer strategy to prevail and/or b) pay any attention to Enemedia Propaganda and/or c) surrender the contest before election day.

There are signs of all three of these things happening.

There is only one legitimate way for Conservative Americans to vote in this election, and that is with McCain/Palin. All other votes lead to an Obama win.

(And there is only one legitimate way for Conservative Kiwis to vote in our election, and that is with a double-tick to National. Otherwise Aunty Helen will get back in for sure.)

Just my $0.02 worth.


4 posted on 10/31/2008 12:41:28 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

That person is not some kid playing around on the internet at 3am taking fun political pot shots.

I sense someone who is genuinely pissed off behind those words.


5 posted on 10/31/2008 12:42:57 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (Sarah for VP !)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

I don’t think this is real.


6 posted on 10/31/2008 12:45:49 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama: If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.)
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To: DiogenesLaertius; LucyT
I changed my somewhat positive opinion of this campaign during the unfair and sexist campaign against Sarah Palin. I will never agree with her on the issues and will probably never vote for her, but I am embarrassed of what has happened. I can’t ignore our own hand in all of this. What I do know is that I will not be voting for Obama this time around. Treat that as you will.

Sounds authentic because it pretty much repeats what I read on the Dems for Hillary and P.U.M.A. websites.

7 posted on 10/31/2008 12:45:52 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: DiogenesLaertius

Fake, but accurate.


8 posted on 10/31/2008 12:46:06 AM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I’ve post this before on a similar thread, but it is straight out of “Rules for Radicals”:

“But Alinsky understood that there was a flip side to his strategy of speaking the palatable language of the middle class and the reassuring parlance of morality.

Specifically, he said that organizers must be entirely unpredictable and unmistakably willing — for the sake of the moral principles in whose name they claim to act — to watch society descend into utter chaos and anarchy. He stated that they must be prepared, if necessary, to “go into a state of complete confusion and draw [their] opponent into the vortex of the same confusion.”


9 posted on 10/31/2008 12:46:54 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: DiogenesLaertius
is the same poster from Hillbuzz?....very similar talking points.....I am so paranoid now that I have to be suspicious of everything.....however, it all rings true....hussein is an empty suit good at putting words together that say nothing substantial....the campaign against McPalin has been scripted.....

that Sarah Palin....she has really thrown them for a loop hasn't she....

instead of doing what I would do...run and hide and cry....she instead has taken the totally obscenity against her and "girded her loins" with it....

10 posted on 10/31/2008 12:47:53 AM PDT by cherry
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To: DiogenesLaertius

From what I’ve been seeing at PUMA sites, I believe EVERY word of this article.

Here’s several millions (minimum) of PUMAs, etc..

Hillary Clinton Supporters For John McCain:
http://www.hcsfjm.com

Party Unity My A$$ PAC/People United Means Action PAC:
http://blog.pumapac.org

Democrats Against Obama/Nobama ever!
http://democrats-against-obama.org

Just Say No Deal:
http://justsaynodeal.com

and more...

http://blog.pumapac.org/
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/di...
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
http://thatsmeontheleft.blogspot.com/
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/
http://savagepolitics.com/
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/
http://thedenvergroup.blogspot.com/
http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/
http://thenewagenda.net/
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/
http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/
http://clintondems.com/
http://www.hireheels.com/
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/
http://anvp.typepad.com/
http://globallabor.blogspot.com/
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/
http://liberalrapture.com/
http://logisticsmonster.com/
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/
http://www.partizane.com/
http://chicagoagainstobama.wordpress....
http://donnadarko.wordpress.com/
http://redhotandbluepolitics.com/
http://themountainsage.wordpress.com/
http://paganpower.wordpress.com/
http://deadenders.wordpress.com/
http://ascrivenerslament.blogspot.com/
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potp...
http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_...
http://sugarnspice.typepad.com/
http://comealongway.wordpress.com/
http://reddragon62.blogspot.com/
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/
http://dakiniland.wordpress.com/
http://vbonnaire.wordpress.com/
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
http://americanpumainitaly.blogspot.com/
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
http://ohmyvalve.blogspot.com/
http://doublejointedfingers.blogspot....
http://budwhite.wordpress.com/
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/
http://texashillblog.wordpress.com/
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wo...
http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/
http://madamab.wordpress.com/
http://gaffenation.wordpress.com/
http://www.hillaryis44.org/
http://elizabitchez.blogspot.com/
http://ladyboomernyc.wordpress.com/
http://stateofdisbelief.wordpress.com/
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/
http://annienyc.blogspot.com/
http://clintondems.com/
http://www.writehillaryin.com/
http://drslogan.wordpress.com/
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
http://pumaparty.com/turndownobama/
http://thepinkflamingo.blogharbor.com...
http://free-us-now.com/
http://www.obamacrimes.com/
http://www.americasright.com/
http://hillaryclintonnews.blogspot.com/
http://demsmoveon.blogspot.com/

Take a look around these sites for a half hour or 45 minutes....(there are hundreds more linked to these, just look for links)

this is a VERY SHORT, PARTIAL LIST!!!!


11 posted on 10/31/2008 12:50:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

It’s bull shiite, not even very well written. It obviously has the perspective of what such an article would look like if it were written by an insider, but it only really touches on the stuff that’s important to GOPers, not to someone who’d be inside the campaign. Plus, there’s no independent information, a dead giveaway.


12 posted on 10/31/2008 12:50:21 AM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

Obama’s Speechwriter Boldly Declares She’s a P.U.M.A!

http://www.puma08.com/2008/10/29/obamas-speechwriter-boldly-declares-shes-a-puma/


13 posted on 10/31/2008 12:51:16 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: word_warrior_bob
Actually, it could well be both FAKE (contrived) and yet 100% accurate and on target, i.e. it really tells what is going on behind the scenes, at the same time. I know they sould like mutual contradictions, but put your mind in an Asian funk and it makes sense. Someone who knows exactly what is happening within Camp Obama without direct knowledge but through analysis and various open sources and other clues, and then just verbalizes what a pissed off internal person would write--just speaks their words for them.

I dont think it is disinfo to get us off game is what I am saying.

14 posted on 10/31/2008 12:53:01 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Job One: DEFEAT OBAMA. Job Two: Win or Lose, A TOTAL De-RINOfication of the G.O.P. on all levels!!)
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To: DiogenesLaertius
– Sarah Palin. Don’t believe what the media is telling you about how horrible a choice she was... she has done wonders in mobilizing the base for McCain.

This may not be real, but the above analysis is spot on. The TV talking heads completely miss the point of the Palin pick. One would think that things like Ann Coulter's changing of her website from "get drunk and vote for McCain.com" to "voting for Palin.com" would clue them in, but that's not the case.

15 posted on 10/31/2008 12:57:23 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: DiogenesLaertius

I have felt for some time that this whole Obama thing was way over-blown, but the media has certainly gone out of its way to deceive us all. It has been hard to read, even knowing that the polls are skewed against us. I continue to hope that we are going to win by a landslide, but more importantly, I hope that we retake many seats in the Congress, as well.


16 posted on 10/31/2008 12:57:56 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Kevmo

Count Us Out

PUMAS FOR McCAIN/PALIN

http://countusout.wordpress.com/


17 posted on 10/31/2008 1:00:32 AM PDT by Fred Nerks
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Another words a Jason Blair article? Perhaps, but it rings true to everything we're seeing. If it's “fake”, it was written by a highly intelligent individual or a relative/close friend of an insider.
18 posted on 10/31/2008 1:00:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Barack Obama: In Error and arrogant -- he's errogant!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
One thing is for sure.

They (the evil, nasty enemy), on the prowl as lurkers, are watching us right now reading it and discussing it and reacting to it.

19 posted on 10/31/2008 1:11:07 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Job One: DEFEAT OBAMA. Job Two: Win or Lose, A TOTAL De-RINOfication of the G.O.P. on all levels!!)
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To: ari-freedom

I agree. Anyone else notice some of the libs leaving their party all of the sudden professing that they were wrong and spilling the not so secret secrets?


20 posted on 10/31/2008 1:12:16 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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